Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Traditional family values


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The result was   redirect to Family values. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:03, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Traditional family values

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I'm not taking this to AfD because I think it should be deleted; on the contrary, I have no opinion. User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz tagged it for speedy deletion, but User:Bearian contested, and suggested a PROD or AfD. I took the liberty of making the nomination, while noting that I am a neutral third party regarding the page's deletion. C h r o m a Nebula  (talk)   18:11, 22 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. First, it's a very recent creation by banned user Benjeboi, via his just-identified Sportfan5000 sock, intended as a thumb-on-the scales way to associate the widely used phrase with a relatively narrow political segment. Second, it's basically a content fork of Family values; there's nothing suggesting the more careful and more accurate treatment of the phrase in that article is inadequate. Third, it's far too open-ended, and is likely to end up a lengthy-to-the-point of being useless laundry list -- its four entries already include a related phrase, a type of political rhetoric, a political movement, and a political philosophy -- it's already a catch-all for more-and-less associated concepts, not the alternative meanings/referents a DAB page should be used to identify. 19:47, 22 March 2014 (UTC)Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk)
 * Agreed. The relevant policy is WP:DABCONCEPT. Cheers! bd2412  T 14:52, 26 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge to Family values. They seem to be the same thing. WP should have an article on the topic and/or expression, even if its meaning is somewhat vague and constantly shifting. BTW many people have complimented President and Mrs. Obama on their family values without implying that they are somehow right-wing. Kitfoxxe (talk) 01:05, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Check it out Obama family values. Kitfoxxe (talk) 01:09, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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 * Merge - I think it could be included. I just don't want the precedent of speedy-deleting a possibly good article merely because it was created by a banned user. Bearian (talk) 22:48, 24 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - what is there to merge? It's a WP:DAB that falls very very far afoul of WP:NPOV. ansh 666 05:11, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Not sure what I was thinking; redirect to Family values would work better. I'm pretty sure the "possible meanings" are mostly included in there already. ansh 666 16:34, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge in the sense of referencing these possible meanings in Family values and redirecting the title there. bd2412  T 14:51, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.