Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trafalgar D. Water Law


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The result was redirect to List of One Piece characters. If editors think there is content that is worth merging, they are free to do it through normal procedures. Guerillero Parlez Moi 11:37, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Trafalgar D. Water Law

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Another contested redirect - zero real world notability. Delete as per WP:NOTPLOT. Would have restored redirect, but recent ANI discussions have taken that option away, so now we are here.  Onel 5969  TT me 11:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  Onel 5969  TT me 11:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Draftify Redirect As a fan of One Piece and of the character, this article is completely null and void of anything interesting or noteworthy, but I think there is still hope to salvage this article by making this into a draft before sending it to the article mainspace. SimonLagann (talk) 12:39, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Changed to redirect. SimonLagann (talk) 13:31, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
 * One question: What do you mean by "zero real-world notability"? This is a fictional character. If Law has "zero real-world notability" then neither does half of Marvel Comics's rogues gallery. In the fifth popularity poll of One Piece, Law came second, a position usually held by Roronoa Zoro, and the global poll in 2021 he finished in the Top 10. SimonLagann (talk) 13:00, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I assume what was meant was that there are only sources discussing the character in-universe, like plot-summary and it's importance for the other characters. Real-world notability is when sources talk about impact of the character on the real world: If he is popular by the readers/viewers (such as the polls you mentioned, if published in reliable sources), how the character creation worked (like in the CBR article), real-world cultural connotations (like in this paper), etc. Daranios (talk) 07:45, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 08:38, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep page; This character is one of the most important characters in the best-selling continuous comics of all time. Plumber (talk) 03:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. nn character does not need a stand alone article. Wikipedia is not Fandom and there is a good target.  // Timothy :: talk  04:02, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep or merge to List of One Piece characters. It's not correct that there is "zero real world notability": The CBR article has a bit on the character creation, and this academic paper, has some discussion of real-world cultural/historical connections made by the creators, both of which should have been found in a WP:BEFORE search. It's not a great deal of information, though, so I am fine with either merge or keep. Daranios (talk) 15:11, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect unless someone tries to make a reception section. Right now this is pure WP:FANCRUFT. It has some potential, per Daranios, but it cannot be kept in the current "poor-copy-of-Fandom" style. (If anyone adds a receptions section, ping me and I'll reconsider my vote). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:44, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge selectively to List of One Piece characters. The coverage isn't enough to pass notability, but there may be a way to preserve some of this. Shooterwalker (talk) 23:33, 6 April 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.