Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tragic villain (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Villain. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 03:06, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Tragic villain
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This appears to entirely be unreferenced original research or Dictionary-level definitions of a term. Since this was until very recently redirected to Villain, I suggest that this once again be redirected to Villain, where the concept could be adequately covered in its section on "Villain archetypes". — Mhawk10 (talk) 01:04, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
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 * Redirect. Lordy. Villain isn't in great shape either, but absolutely this should redirect there. It doesn't have any more material than any of the other archetypes on Villain (which are all uncited, oof), and there is also already a heading there on sympathetic villains. Keeping this separate doesn't make much sense and is just going to lead to an ever-expanding "in popular culture" list, which is already out of control. (Quasimodo? Ancient Minister from Super Smash Bros. Brawl?!) Worth noting that this is basically a straight restoration of the page that was initially redirected - down to the maintenance tags from 2007. The IP editor who brought this back hasn't made any changes to it, just the categories. If someone wants to improve this, they can do so perfectly well on Villain (and please fix the rest of that article while you're at it). -- asilvering (talk) 09:06, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect to villain, preferably a specific section if possible. Dronebogus (talk) 10:50, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect and don't merge or keep any of the existing material. It's just original research and none of it would be broadly useful to the topic even if it were cited - it's WP:UNDUE culled from a list of what appears to be someone's favorite video games. Yikes. &#32;- car chasm (talk) 18:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Redirect -- The fact that all we have apart from a definition is a list from "popular culture" speaks for itself. "Popular culture" sections of articles were largely deleted many years ago.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:42, 3 December 2021 (UTC)


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