Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transatlantic International Airlines


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The result was delete. Daniel (talk) 04:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Transatlantic International Airlines

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This article references a proposed airline with an largely unrealistic business model. Also, the only citation actually redirects to another Wikipedia article. The page on Shannon Airport references the airline and only gives a start date of "starting soon." Also, one of the chief contributors, user Monbro, has a troubled history on Wikipedia with numerous other articles proposed for deletion in the past. As an aside, his user page simply says "Your mom." Aaporter 87 (talk) 18:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

One thing I forgot to mention: I follow the airline industry pretty intensely and I've never even heard of this supposed airline. Aaporter 87 (talk) 18:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Also of note is that the links to the CEO simply redirect to the same page. Aaporter 87 (talk) 18:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete no evidence of any news coverage, which would be present for an airline with any sense of launching. Could easily be re-created if plans move forward at some point in the future. Travellingcari (talk) 18:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - I almost started laughing when I saw that article. The CEO obviously isn't from Ohio, as any Ohioan, such as myself, could easily predict that that airline will never get off the ground. Delete per lack of secondary sources, however, and lack of notability, and all speculation.  Jd 027  chat 19:20, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Travellingcari. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 23:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.   -- Gavin Collins (talk) 11:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as wether this is a hoax or not, it fails WP:CRYSTAL. --Gavin Collins (talk) 11:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Clearly not a hoax (so I removed the tag), nor is it a crystal issue.  It's a real company operating today that owns a number of older passenger jets that it provides out for charter and longer term leases.  Reporting that it has active plans to begin scheduled service is fair.  The real question is whether it's notable.  I don't see any clear evidence of notability, unless there's a presumption among the airline articles that any outfit that operates multiple large passenger jets is inherently notable.  That would be a fair call but I don't know if that's the case.  Wikidemo (talk) 15:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Okay, looking through the FAA database of registered "N-numbers" (registrations), I can tell that the company does exist.  However, for this article to remain it will need a serious clean-up and the speculative stuff about starting scheduled services should go away for now.  Also, of the two planes they say they own, only one (N4508H) is registered to them, while the other (N708BA) is registered to some other company.  So at this point it is either extensively modify and clean up, or delete due to not enough notability.  Aaporter 87 (talk) 22:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, per Travellingcari. Wexcan Talk  14:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.