Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Transworld Group (Shipping and Logistic company)


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 02:19, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Transworld Group (Shipping and Logistic company)

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This looks like WP:PROMO with material based on the company's website. I'm not seeing any WP:SECONDARY sources, other that stuff that appears to come from press releases. --David Tornheim (talk) 05:11, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. There's also an article on the company's chairman, Ramesh Ramakrishnan, which was created by the same editor, and was tagged for notability in August 2018. I haven't checked the sources in either article, or run any searches. Narky Blert (talk) 10:29, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:07, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment it certainly looks very spammy. When I get to a PC I'll have a closer look at the sources and try and clean up the referencing to get a better feel as there are multiple references to the same source. Dom from Paris (talk) 11:53, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, i did a copyvio check because it is a bit spammy, it is clear.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:07, 4 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete the sources are mostly press releases company documents affiliated sources and the only in-depth coverage comes from trade publications notably Exim, that are nothing more than published press releases with stuff like "Mr Ramesh S. Ramakrishnan pointed out that the tagline, "We bring you the world" reflects the group’s ability and service excellence capabilities, which is the cornerstone of Transworld Group heritage. The success lies in its commitment to customers"." or the following "combined with strong network partners the world over, Transworld offers a one-stop shop to all its customers." or this one "Transworld Shipping Agencies (TSA) was honoured with the award for handling the highest number of container vessels in Cochin at the Cochin Port Day celebrations on May 25, 2018. Mr Krishnakumar of TSA received this prestigious award from the Chief Guest, Justice (Retd) P. Sathasivam, Governor of Kerala."...definately not the kind of reporting from an independent source. Dom from Paris (talk) 18:31, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete: WP:NCORP fail & promotionlism only. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:08, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I am having difficulty finding sources which are not about Trans-World Group, which is not to say there aren't any, just that it's a very difficult name to search on. The article itself needs cleaning up - if it's a global shipping and logistics organisation, we surely don't need to know the new names of two of its ships, let alone the exact date and time they were renamed. I'll have a brief look to see if searching on the founder's and chairman's names leads to more coverage.RebeccaGreen (talk) 08:04, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, probably Keep if revised. Possible sources are The Business Times of Singapore, 'Cruising calmly through rough seas' and 'BLPL finds a thriving route in shipping's treacherous waters' ; Vietnam Express International, 'Vietnam and Singapore firms set up logistics joint venture' ; The Hindu Business Line has an interview, ' To be a global shipping player, India needs infrastructure' ; The Times of India had an article 'Develop infrastructure on east coast to decongest west' ; there is a paragraph in the book Beyond the Myth: Indian Business Communities in Singapore ; Ramesh Ramakrishnan was No 27 on the Indian Rich List 2011, according to the Arabian Business (the listing is as much about the company as about its chairman) ; Gulf News has 'Transworld Group in warehouse expansion talks', 'Transworld invests Dh367m to expand shipping fleet', 'Etihad Rail partners with Transworld Logistics' . I think there's enough there to establish WP:ORGCRIT and WP:ORGIND, but business is really not my field. RebeccaGreen (talk) 13:32, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   18:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep -- Another failure of WP:BEFORE with nom mistaking poor sourcing in article with potential sourcing in world, the latter of which is what determines notability. Just for instance:
 * [Business Standard article 1
 * The National article 1
 * Maritime Standard article
 * And so on... A clear pass of GNG. 192.160.216.52 (talk) 19:27, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, article revised and press releases removed. Figwood (talk) 17:41, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per RebeccaGreen and WP:NEXIST. gidonb (talk) 03:32, 16 November 2018 (UTC)


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