Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trauma and PTSD in Asian Americans


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. No prejudice towards immediate re-nomination if so desired. Daniel (talk) 00:46, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Trauma and PTSD in Asian Americans

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I'm a bit torn on this one. While this is pretty well-written, it's almost wholly an essay. Even if it weren't one, it's just such a specific topic that covers only a minority population in a single country. I could not find any similar articles on different races or other for other countries, so I don't think this is a noteworthy enough topic to justify an article. I'm not necessarily against a merge, however. It could be greatly condensed then merged into Health status of Asian Americans some way. Waddles 🗩 🖉 00:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:59, 13 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:28, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Health and fitness-related deletion discussions. Waddles 🗩 🖉 00:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * <small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. <b style="color:white">Waddles</b> <b style="color:white">🗩</b> <b style="color:white">🖉</b> 00:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, not only the way of writing, but also the article scope fails WP:NOTESSAY. Geschichte (talk) 09:42, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge: The issue of trauma and PTSD among Asian Americans is well documented in peer-reviewed journals, as well as the media. The only question is if it merits its own entry in the articlespace or a merge into a page belonging to a more broader but closely related topic. Multi7001 (talk) 04:23, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep: The risks section speaks about some issues particular to Asian Americans. The interventions section mentions some cultural factors that are particular to parts of Asian culture.  It could be improved with a rewrite for tone, but there's no need to delete it.  -- Bob drobbs (talk) 18:16, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. If "we have another example of this kind of article" isn't in itself grounds for keeping a poor-quality article, I don't think "we don't have an another example of this kind of article" is grounds per se for a delete. WP:NOTESSAY comes in much more urgently bad varieties than this. It has a decent set of references. I don't think merging is appropriate: the "mental health" subsection of Health status of Asian Americans is already pretty long, and PTSD is even longer; merging it will either ultimately cause it to disappear as it gets condensed into nearly nothing, or balloon out a section of an already-long page. What it needs is to be de-orphaned. -- asilvering (talk) 03:30, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * As an aside, the course this was written for is linked on the talk page, and that course produced several similarly specific articles about trauma in the USA. Whoever tries to de-orphan this article if it's kept could probably efficiently attend to the whole set. -- asilvering (talk) 04:08, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Sometimes I'm so perplexed by an AFD nomination I wonder if I am completely missing the point. We have vast numbers of articles that describe a specific topic that covers only a minority population in a single country. For example, consider the articles in Category:Islamic terrorism in the United States, many of which are far more specific than this one. Indeed, the article being considered here seems to me rather broad in scope. It doesn't seem to be in any way contrary to WP:NOTESSAY which is asking for contents to be well referenced and not to include personal feelings or discussions. Apart from a very few sentences such as "Thus, CBT is appealing and serves as a popular choice for many patients with Asian American cultural backgrounds", this article does not. As for not being noteworthy enough topic to justify an article, if this is suggesting WP:GNG is failed, I quite simply think that is a seriously wrong assessment. Even if you discount the primary research papers you are still left with adequate suitable references. Thincat (talk) 11:50, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 *  Comment I agree with all the "Keep" comments. Mathieu Vouillamoz (talk) 17:09, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Health status of Asian Americans.-KH-1 (talk) 23:45, 21 November 2021 (UTC)


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