Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Traveling Circle (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 18:29, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Traveling Circle
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I've checked, and cannot myself find sufficient evidence of notability in the coverage of this band by reliable sources (though there is limited coverage). This article was considered for deletion at Articles for deletion/Traveling Circle. Only 1 other editor -- an IP -- participated in the discussion. The result was no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. Epeefleche (talk) 03:50, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. This is the only real significant coverage I could find. Unless more can be found, I don't think that's enough to merit an article.--Michig (talk) 06:08, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:43, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Here are some more articles on Traveling Circle:

http://psychedelicbaby.blogspot.com/2011/05/traveling-circle-interview.html http://www.fileunder.nl/archives/2011/02/traveling_circle_handmade_house_1.php http://www.thedelimagazine.com/FeatureView.php?artist=travelingcircle http://mratavist.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/traveling-circle-handmade-house/ http://www.dreun.com/CdDetail.asp?Id_cd=5724 http://mratavist.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/traveling-circle-comes-around-interview/ http://wine-women-song.blogspot.com/2010/10/handmade-house-by-traveling-circle.html http://sonyudum.blogspot.com/2010/10/gunun-parcas-traveling-circle-note-rops.html http://www.kreetik.com/1/post/2010/9/interview-with-joshua-schultz-of-traveling-circle.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.125.144.131 (talk) 18:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Blogs are generally not considered reliable sources. We need evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources here - see WP:RS for details.--Michig (talk) 19:02, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Traveling Circle exists and this is evidenced by their release on Nasoni Records out of Berlin. Yes, they are an underground band and some may think they're not 'notable' or 'significant'. But underground is a historic phenomenon and thus has a place in any encyclopaedia, especially an online one like wikipedia. And I can't believe someone is splitting hairs over the fact that Traveling Circle hasn't completed their second album yet as a requirement to be on wikipedia. They are currently working with Gordon Raphael (The Strokes producer) to release their second album. So even if someone deletes this page, I guess we'll just try to put it back up again when the second album is complete to keep things 'notable' and 'significant'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArkSon (talk • contribs) 11:20, 8 June 2011 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 13 June 2011 (UTC)




 * Delete In response to ArkSon: we aren't here to debate if it exists, we're fully aware of that. Likewise, I exist, but I don't have a wikipedia article about myself. The fact that a famous person is working/has worked with them (Gordon Raphael, Yoed Nir) doesn't make them notable, and none of the links cited in the article or here are enough to establish notability. Yes, underground exists. However, by that argument, every teenager's garage band should be included here because they're underground. Until enough WP:RS are found that we can conclude that the band is notable, this article has no place on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bstbll (talk • contribs) 01:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete due to lack of enough references. Just because the article mentions MySpace, Twitter and other pages like that, doesn't mean it's automatically notable. If they are mentioned on more reliable sources such as TV stations and newspapers/magazines, THEN we have a good article. SwisterTwister (talk) 06:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

COMMENT: Both the Aquarian Weekly and Deli Magazine articles above appeared in their print editions. Upcoming article in the Italian print-only publication Vincebus Eruptum is forthcoming. Here is a link to the last issue: http://www.vincebuseruptum.it/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=139&Itemid=64 That makes at least three print articles. Thanks.

I believe with both an album on a significant independent record label and published articles covering the band both on the web and in print, this article satisfies Wikipedia's requirements for inclusion. Could somebody please post a link to the criteria for including an entry on a band? I have read them previously but was not currently able to locate them though I made an effort to do so. I recall both of the above points to be among them. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.125.144.131 (talk) 20:22, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Apart from the General Notability Guideline there's also WP:NBAND - frankie (talk) 21:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.