Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Traveling Light (album)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Erik9 (talk) 18:07, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Traveling Light (album)

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Notability Spectre9 (talk) 05:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  --  The  left orium  18:01, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep as another bad nomination by this editor. A quick search reveals plenty of significant coverage for this album. Editor would be better off improving these articles rather than nominating them. Drmies (talk) 18:56, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - album by an artist with their own (albeit weak) article.    7   talk &#124; &Delta; &#124;   23:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Just because it is a release from a notable artist doesn't automatically make their albums notable too. Instead of counting Ghits, sources show nothing of substance actually talking or reviewing specifically this album. Notability not established per WP:MUSIC with significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources. Keep, for the sources Drmies has added to the article. Nice work.    Esradekan Gibb    "Klat" 03:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Weak keep: most of the links on the google page that Drmies provides are to reviews of the album, unfortunately paid reviews, but reviews none-the-less. A couple of non-subscription reviews can be found in the Illinois Herald & Review and Blender. --JD554 (talk) 07:16, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * There are two (albeit brief) mentions in Billboard, a review in Guitar Player (can't get my hands on it right now), a five-paragraph review in Deseret News, a paragraph in The Salt Lake Tribune, etc. For some reason I can't access the 20 Jan 2006 edition of the Herald & Review, but even the blurb on Google is indicative of some substance. I mean, this, Singer-songwriter Courtney Jaye gets a royal sendoff on "Traveling Light" (Island). Finessed by hit producer Peter Collins, the Pittsburgh-born, Atlanta-raised Jaye comes off like a lighter, breezier Sarah McLachlan. Check out the frisky first single "Can't Behave" (a co-write with the Jayhawks' Gary Louris), the poignant "Time for Goodbye," balmy, Indigo Girls-ish title track and warmly embracing "Love Song (For Everyone)," from the St. Paul Pioneer Press, isn't all that much--but it's more than a lot of other albums on WP have gotten. Put it all together, you have notability, and Esradekan Gibb, I'm not counting Google hits (if you would look, you would know that I use Google News, without counter), and if you think a five-paragraph review in Utah's oldest daily newspaper does not amount to "significant coverage in reliable, third-party, sources," then you really need to look again. And before you ask, YES, I did just spent the last 45 minutes plowing through databases to refute your all-too dismissive statement and this ridiculous nomination. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 16:12, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * It looks like the Herald & Review was only temporary access for free. But it is there, and I guess an assumption of good faith is needed ... unless someone wants to pay ;) --JD554 (talk) 16:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The weird thing is, the Herald's entire month of January 2006 is not indexed in EBSCO. Strange, because they have the paper from Jan 2005 until the day before yesterday. No, I'm not willing to pay, haha. BTW, I should not have put this comment under yours, sorry 'bout that. I have looked at a number of AfD's by this nominator and they were all not-so-good; answering Esradekan, who needs more proof than the blurbs on Google News (he has a right to ask, of course, though perhaps not a reason to dismiss my search results so quickly), made me go through all these databases and that's really irritating, esp. LexisNexis, whose search functionality blows. I could, of course, bring all this into the article--but I also have a job... ;) Drmies (talk) 18:04, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, whaddayaknow, all of a sudden I had free access: "Courtney Jaye, “Traveling Light” — Great voice. She reminds me of Liz Phair vocally, but she’s not quite as musically eccentric. (Actually, she sounds more like Danielle Brisebois to me, but that’s not a lot of help to almost everyone, since so few people have heard her.) Jaye has drawn comparisons with Sheryl Crow, but she’s a little more pop than Crow’s relative rock. Besides, Playboy has picked Jaye as a Woman on the Verge, and Playboy is where you go for music tips, right?" That's not very substantive, but again, it's something. Drmies (talk) 18:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - based on sources added, appears to meet notability. Rlendog (talk) 20:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.