Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Travis MacRae (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Courcelles 23:01, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Travis MacRae
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The subject of this article fails to meet any of Wikipedia's criteria for notable musicians. External links and sources are weak. Reference to a performance on a local Canadian television show cannot be confirmed. The artist's website is blank and other links listed on the page are dead or have been mostly inactive for years. Searches for the artist and the artist's record labels do not yield any useful information to the contrary. This article has been nominated for deletion twice, both times in 2006, yielding no consensus. But in the six years that have followed, no convincing case has been built. -Makersmarkers (talk) 02:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete per WP:MUSIC. Not to be discouraging, but any artist who only sells 100 or less copies of their music (per the article) is still at approximately garage-band level.  Fails even the most generous standards of inclusion. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  03:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 22:27, 15 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete per WP:MUSIC and WP:BASIC. I'm unable to find anything about his records that were claimed to be released by the labels Willow Tree and Middle River Records. If this is the Willow Tree Records' website, I'm not sure if it can be considered as a label. Middle River Records might just be a cd/dvd manufacturer and again not a label. I also can't find any independent and reliable third-party source about him. His website domain seems to be expired about a month ago, so he either quit music, and if not, I really hope he's ok since I can't find anything about his recent activities as a musician. I also think his album, The Porpoise and the Whale, should be nominated for deletion as well, because it is at best recorded with his own efforts since there is absolutely no evidence that such an album exists, yet alone significant coverage WP:BASIC requires. It is really hard to understand how this article survived the two previous Afd discussions. In any case, his albums and the record companies should be verified by sources that meet WP:RS before checking if the article meets WP:MUSIC's "Has released two or more albums on a major label or on one of the more important indie labels" criteria, which should have been done during the two previous Afd discussions - and if not, the article simply fails WP:BASIC. Nimuaq (talk) 00:26, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I was hopeful about finding some sources, given Jeffleeds' arguments in the previous AfD which would be reasonably strong, if they could be backed by proper sourcing. I haven't been able to confirm that there are articles about MacRae in Sing Out! and in Alternative Press, although I don't think there is web access to articles from that time. Checking Google News and a library database of newspaper and magazine articles I'm unable to find any sources that would be helpful towards establishing WP:N notability. Without any reliable sources, I'm left recommending delete. The album article can be deleted as CSD A9 if this discussion is closed as "delete". Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 01:08, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - I cannot find coverage to indicate notability is satisified. -- Whpq (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
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