Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trial and incarceration of the junta at Korydallos


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The result was Withdrawn by nominator Mayalld (talk) 07:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Trial and incarceration of the junta at Korydallos

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Hello, can you please explain the reason for the proposed deletion. I'm sure they do not include notability or lack of references. Thank you. Dr.K. (talk) 15:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as unnecessary content fork from Greek military junta of 1967–1974 Mayalld (talk) 15:32, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've already explained this at Mayalld's talk page so I will quote our correspondence here:
 * Certainly. The subject is already covered in the main article on the Junta, and a separate article is not needed. Mayalld (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * The coverage of the trial that the new article will provide when fully developed will be much more extensive than what curently exists at the main article. This was a complex and notorious case. It cannot be fully covered within the junta article. Dr.K. (talk) 15:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Unless and until the volume of information in the main article increases greatly, I would dispute this. Mayalld (talk) 15:20, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Dr.K. (talk) 15:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Dr.K. (talk) 15:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment This is how the article looked when user Mayalld proposed to delete it: diff and this how it looks now: Trial and incarceration of the junta at Korydallos. It was expanded from 1567 bytes to 23,691 and counting. I think that I was not given a proper chance to expand it before the afd was initiated. I request an admin to speedy keep it. Dr.K. (talk) 18:02, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge (back?) into Greek military junta of 1967-1974. If it does grow to its full potential, as it may, as noted above, then we can have a separate article for it. An extra paragraph or two in the Greek military junta of 1967-1974 article won't hurt for the time being. Calor (talk) 16:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: This article is large and complex enough that its inclusion in the junta article will adversely affect the flow of that article. Dr.K. (talk) 16:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep This seems like an important enough event to have its own article. Doesn't the impeachment of President Clinton? Northwestgnome (talk) 16:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: I completely agree. This was an important event in Greek jurisprudence which examined complex legal questions and was compared to the Nuremberg Trials as a citation by Time Magazine states. I also think I have addressed the size issue because I have already expanded the article to a reasonable size. Dr.K. (talk) 16:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep and expand. The trial was an important milestone in modern Greek political history and had far reaching repercussions. It set the stage for the post junta political scenery in Greece and is one of those rare instances in which ex dictators were actually put on trial. It invites useful comparison with the cases of Chile, Spain, Portugal etc. The topic deserves to be treated seperately and in greater detail. It also offers important insight to events largely unknown out of Greece. The notability of the topic is more than granted--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 17:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Correct WP:SS spinout, not fork, concerning a well-sourced and significant historical event.  Sandstein   20:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep per above. El Greco(talk) 21:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep per emerging consensus. The article, however, needs a better name. What are these trials called in Greek? Perhaps Korydallos trials-- if properly linked to Metapolitefsi, Greek military junta of 1967–1974, etc.-- would be a better name. Aramgar (talk) 23:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent points. I will rename the article along the lines of your suggestion. I think they should be called "Junta trials (Korydallos) because if I'm not mistaken there have been other trials there as well. Thanks again. Dr.K. (talk) 00:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep significant political event, content covers decades of the prisoners' lives quite seperate of the regime itself. Dimadick (talk) 07:15, 16 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. A significant event in its own right.--Damac (talk) 07:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand per WP:SS. Important enough to be a separate article.--Yannismarou (talk) 12:39, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Title change
As a courtesy to the closing admin please note that the article title is now changed to: Greek junta trials. Thank you. Dr.K. (talk) 03:35, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


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