Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Triangle and Robert


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was keep. --Phroziac(talk) 00:02, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Triangle and Robert
This is a very long running webcomic I'm putting for deletion, found here. The strip has been around for about 6 years, yet a google search shows up nothing different about this site and every other website out there. I'm not sure about how The Web Comic list ranks webcomics, but the stats page shows an average of 80 views a month, AzN_PRinCes5's livejournal gets more than that. Just because it is a webcomic does not make it more notable than any other website out there, no matter what WP:COMIC says. - Hahnchen 00:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I hate to vote delete on my friends' webcomics, but I'm sure Noser will forgive me, as his webcomic isn't particularly significant or important in the scheme of things. (By the way, don't use webcomic list rankings. Their "hits" numbers are only the number of times people have visited the comic from that particular site, and the numbers are frequently gamed.) - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 00:45, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I wasn't sure about the web comic list. But I thought that the spike on todays viewings were caused by me, so thought maybe they did reflect real time figures. - Hahnchen 00:48, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. I'm the author of the comic. I agree it's not _particularly_ notable as webcomics go, but I don't see why WP:COMIC should just be ignored. T&R has been running for a fairly long time, was an acknowledged inspiration for parts of the acclaimed One over Zero, and is far from unknown among webcomic aficionados.
 * Keep: Historically notable as one of the first "experimental" webcomics, and combined with its popularity showed that artistic talent was unneccessary for the creation of webcomics (Pre-dates Bob and George and 8-Bit Theater. Nifboy 02:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep A rather surprising choice for AfD IMNSHO. Abe Dashiell 02:24, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Old age does not equal notability. Being on the internet does not equal notability. Doesn't fulfill WP:COMIC conditions to be kept (will change position if shown to have been popular in the past). DirectorStratton 02:37, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Penny Arcade, the 800-lb gorilla of webcomics, called it "one of the all time classics". That count? Nifboy 04:10, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Not when the visibility is so low. Delete Dottore So 19:32, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * There's nothing verifiable in the whole article, other than verification by the website the article is about. A website cannot verify itself, so delete.  Friday (talk) 02:57, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. nn. mikka (t) 06:12, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Historically notable, esp. among aficionados. GTBacchus 15:55, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Nifboy. &mdash; [[Image:Ca-on-sb.gif|20px|Flag of Scarborough, ON, Canada]] UTSRelativity (Talk)  16:27, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, notability established above. &mdash; mendel &#9742; 16:49, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as per Nifboy. Owen&times; &#9742;  17:50, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep even I have heard of this. Secretlondon 22:08, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. The guidelines at WP:COMIC, like 'em or not, are the only guidelines we have for this genre. If they direct us to include the subject, then unless the nominator has a convincing argument to delete, we should follow these guidelines. On the other hand, a number of folks in this discussion have explained this webcomic's historical importance: why not add this material to the article -- even though it's currently listed on AfD -- & help improve the article? Hanchen nominated this article for deletion because none of that info is currently there. -- llywrch 23:15, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep as it seems to have some historical interest. --Apyule 06:31, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep I have no prob with this article. Alf melmac 06:53, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep per Nifboy. Dread Lord C y b e r S k u l l ✎☠ 08:53, 2 October 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.