Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trini (toponym)


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 11:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Trini (toponym)

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Bringing this to AfD after a long and messy history, to clarify whether or not the community believes there should be an article on this demonym (yes, the article is misnamed). There is then a separate discussion to be had as to whether the demonym is the primary topic for the word, but this AfD discussion is about whether or not there should be an article about the demonym (that other discussion would be whether (a) the dab page should be at "Trini" or (b) "Trini" should be either an article on the demonym or a redirect, depending on the result of this current AfD).

The history is complicated but basically an article about the demonym was created in Nov 2005. An AfD closed on 2 March 2016 as "Redirect to Trinidadians". An IP created a new article by overwriting an existing redirect at Trini (toponym) on 28 April 2016, and that's substantially what we have here.

If this article is not deleted, it needs to be renamed to Trini (demonym), currently a redirect (whose history shows it to have been created in a page move on 22 December 2015 when "Trini (demonym)" was moved to "Trini" as "disambiguation is not required". The dab page at Trini (disambiguation) was created 25 May 2014 and did not at that point include any mention of the demonym, though Trinidad was included as an entry. I hope that's all clear to everyone?

I have no particular interest in Trinidad or demonyms, but am bringing this here to try to tidy up what seems to have been a complicated history over the years. I seem to have got this onto my watchlist while stub-sorting in November 2015 and moving the misnamed page I then found! Pam D  09:33, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions. North America1000 11:51, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. North America1000 11:51, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Trinidad and Tobago-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 11:55, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. It it were at Trini (demonym) I'd say redirect it to Trinidadians and Tobagonians, since there's plenty of room in that article to explain the usage of Trinidadian versus Tobagonian versus Trinbagonian versus Trini. But this is a highly improbable search term. As an aside, I believe that the primary usage of Trini is for T&T people (I didn't see the original note at Talk:Trini until today, so thanks for raising that ). Guettarda (talk) 12:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment. I've integrated the useful material here (apart from the list of songs) into https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Trini. Not that I object to this being a Wikipedia entry too. But I'd have thought making it a redirect to Trinidadians and Tobagonians (which already mentions the term Trini) would be fine? Alarichall (talk) 18:52, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 16:12, 27 March 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, KCVelaga (talk) 02:09, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete This is not a toponym so I see no reason to retain a redirect. The Ts and Ts article can cover usage of the term but I don't see much to merge. Reywas92Talk 08:10, 4 April 2019 (UTC)


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