Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trotsky and World War I


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The result was Userfy. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  04:03, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Trotsky and World War I

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Standalone page does not seem necessary, as this is covered in the Leon Trotsky article, and can be expanded on there. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ᐐT₳LKᐬ  18:59, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep It is a separate topic, covered in sources:
 * Thatcher I. D. Leon Trotsky and World War One: August 1914 — February 1917. — Springer, 2000. — 262 p. — ISBN 9781403913968; etc. --Balabinrm (talk) 19:02, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * It is a period of his life. I don't think it makes sense to fork it off into a different article unless it is substantial and the original article is already too long. But that's just my opinion ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia  ᐐT₳LKᐬ  19:06, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, "Trotsky" article is not short; will extend "Trotsky and WWI" from the RU-wiki feature article. --Balabinrm (talk) 19:08, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Plus, RU-version of the article is 100+ kB itself (only Thatcher book is 200+ pages) - I cannot add even half of it without ruining WP:WEIGHT. --Balabinrm (talk) 00:10, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Shellwood (talk) 13:29, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * My plan is: to make a real (not stub) version of the article and according to it rewrite/extend (a bit) the corresponding section of Trotsky. Has already done it in RU-wiki. --Balabinrm (talk) 22:30, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:39, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:39, 9 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep for now. Trotsky's article is long and this article was just created. Give the creator time. If the article remains too short, it can be renominated. Srnec (talk) 00:49, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Userfy Delete or rather Draftify . This isn't ready for main space, and is actually shorter and less comprehensive than Leon Trotsky. I think the title shouldn't have an "and" in it (should be "Trotsky during World War I" or something similar). I'm not sure if WWI is what I would spin out of Trotsky (e.g. his role in the Russian revolution and civil war are much more extensive) - but in any event a spinout article should be properly developed prior to mainspacing.Icewhiz (talk) 08:45, 10 December 2017 (UTC) Make clear this is a Userfy !vote.
 * Ok. Will develope. --Balabinrm (talk) 15:40, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Userify -- The problem with this article is that it is incomplete, most of it existing as an outline only. With a major figure like Trotsky, bio-articles can get out of hand, so that separate articles such as what is planned here have a place, but it is not ready for main space today.  10-12 years ago,we would have put up with articles under construction in main space.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:33, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I think the next editor who comes to the page can Userfy this, since User:Balabinrm has agreed to bring it up to snuff.E.M.Gregory (talk) 18:00, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Userfy — One could make a case for this essay as a subpage of the Trotsky biography. It is almost certainly a topic that would pass GNG, although this piece as it stands is nothing but a lead, a bibliography, and a subheading skeleton... I would suggest to the creator, however, that a more productive and less controversial use of their time would be composing a page for War and the International. Carrite (talk) 05:01, 11 December 2017 (UTC)


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