Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Troy–UAB football rivalry (3rd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete and WP:SALT due to repeated recreation. RL0919 (talk) 04:13, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Troy–UAB football rivalry
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Here we are again. A 3-0 delete in 2014 and 7-0 delete in 2018 Note, the teams have not met since 2014. Existing citatations focus on game schedules and results. There is a quote from a Troy coach (POV) and another about Troy not scheduling UAB. The underlying facts have not changed, additional games have not been played, and new citations of rivalry have not been found -all of which was covered extensively by the 2nd AfD. UW Dawgs (talk) 01:33, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and WP:SALT. UW Dawgs (talk) 01:35, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * This article should be re-created. Both schools have scheduled games against each other, beginning in 2028 and extending thus far to 2033.  The argument previously had about this article is that there were not enough sources, and no games being scheduled, to consider this a rivalry.  Since the deletion of this article, the game has been called an "in-state rivalry" by both school's official media (with sources I can provide), as well as by NBC Sports as of 2020 (after this article was deleted).
 * Please consider re-creating this article. 2600:1700:3280:15B0:E432:C8D9:DDAF:FD9E (talk) 20:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. The last two AfDs ended in unanimous "delete" determinations. No additional games have been played, so I can't imagine what the basis would be for reaching a different result today. Cbl62 (talk) 04:11, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 06:51, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 06:51, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 06:51, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete and salt Fails WP:GNG with lack of significant coverage in multiple, independent sources. The biggest issue is that it fails the guideline WP:WHYN, namely that multiple sources are needed "so that we can write a fair and balanced article that complies with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy ..." Otherwise, editors will just cherry-pick facts from routine coverage in recaps of individual games, as opposed to independent sources that look at the rivalry as a whole. Moreover, routine coverage liberally uses the term rivalry to manufacture hype. At this point, it looks like calling this a "rivalry" is WP:OR.—Bagumba (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete and salt per above. SportingFlyer  T · C  07:22, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete with a hat tip to what seems to be an enthusiastic new editor for being WP:BOLD. I don't see any bad faith on the part of the creator so I don't see any reason to WP:SALT, but it wouldn't bug me if that was the result.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:54, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete--sorry, but this is not a rivalry, and given the recent history of UAB and the scheduling ways of Troy it's hard to expect that it is. Also, the sources just aren't there. Drmies (talk) 23:22, 6 November 2019 (UTC)


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