Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Troyton Rami


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The result was delete. Nakon 19:36, 9 July 2016 (UTC)

Troyton Rami

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The subject does not meet WP:BASIC or WP:MUSICBIO. This source could be considered as significant coverage, but additional sources found via various searches only have passing mentions about the subject, such as, and. North America1000 07:01, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * delete as there are some sources here but still nothing confidently suggesting the needed solid independent notability of any applicability. Delete as there's simply nothing convincing. SwisterTwister   talk  06:37, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yellow Dingo (talk) 11:31, 13 June 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 06:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: As an editor has been pinged 9 days after last relist, it's only fair to give them some time to respond. ansh 666 02:23, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment I am a bit uncertain. I could not find any sources covering the subject other than Jamaica observer. There are multiple sources mentioning the subject trivially or in context of another artist. However, there is a claim that the subject was one of the composer/producer for Gimme the Light, a single which was part of the grammy award winning album Dutty Rock. Pinging who usually works with Music articles. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 10:02, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ansh 666 02:23, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Weak delete - Producers are difficult to deal with in WP:NMUSIC. They're generally not notable unless they've built up a reputation and a sizable corpus of work, because they always work in the background. Bob Rock, George Martin, Rick Rubin, and Mutt Lange are notable exceptions, but they produced entire albums that sold millions of copies and received coverage of their work specifically as a result of those sales on multiple occasions.  It is also important to bear in mind that when a song or album wins a major award, the artist gets it, not the producer (unless it is specifically a production award).  In this case, the Grammy award was for the album, and it's not stated that the subject produced the entire album.  Moreover, the award was not a production award, it was a "Best Album" award.  If we could source the other awards claimed (especially the reggae producer of the year), along with proof that these are indeed major awards, that might do it, but no one has been able to do that yet, being aware that "niche" genres are notorious hard to source to a level of notability.  Nevertheless, it looks like a case of WP:BLP1E, insofar as the work on the single in 2002 was the context in which the subject was notable, and nothing else of note has occurred in the ensuing 15 years.  Simply working with a noted artist is still a case of WP:NOTINHERITED, and none of that work seems to have earned the subject any exposure, so I don't see enough here to keep. MSJapan (talk) 02:25, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Alright, I'm convinced with the explanation above. I would say delete now with no prejudice to recreation should notability be demonstrated in the future. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:00, 8 July 2016 (UTC)


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