Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Truckhaven, California


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The result was redirect to Salton City, California. As an WP:ATD &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 23:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Truckhaven, California

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A change of pace here, if only for the rather florid style of the article. And the second paragraph isn't entirely inaccurate, but here's what this source has to say: "Doc Beatty, an early settler, was instrumental in the road's creation, dragging a mule-drawn scraper through the badlands to the Truckhaven gas station to create the first rough road." And "early" here is the 1920s; the road in question was opened in 1930. So, yeah, Truckhaven was a truck stop, and that's what aerials show for the tiny cluster of buildings at the spot indicated by topos. I don't know when it went away but the spot is at the edge of the surreal desert/suburbia of Salton City. Mangoe (talk) 03:19, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Because someone seems to think that WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY is just an essay he can dismiss, I see I will have to waste everyone else's time and mine: it's not a notable place under WP:GEOLAND or any other standard. But I think everyone could already figure that out. Mangoe (talk) 14:46, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That's still not a reason to delete as WP:GEOLAND explains the alternative: "If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the informal place should be included in the more general article on the legally recognized populated place or administrative subdivision that contains it." In any case, it appears that this place is reasonably notable for its history, trail, geology, &c. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:24, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2020 December 13.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 03:43, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Engr.  Smitty   Werben 04:19, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Engr.  Smitty   Werben 04:19, 13 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep per WP:SK: "fails to advance any argument for deletion" as the nomination just seems to be a rambling account of the place. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:19, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. No post office. Looking at old topos indicates that there were a few buildings at that location at one time.  Newspapers.com mentions a cafe, Doc Beaty's trail work and some other non-notable articles (don't be confused by the Truckhaven gas station in Colusa County).  The florid text certainly is a change, it looks like it was made by  an editor with only three edits, so it should probably be reviewed and edited carefully.  GBooks yields geothermal plans and links for the Truckhaven trail, but nothing about the Truckhaven community.  I found no legal recognition, so #1 of WP:GEOLAND is not met.  The coverage is trivial and indicates that Truckhaven was a non-notable cafe so #2 of WP:GEOLAND is not met.
 * It was a cafe, here a link to a 1947 photo (US 99 is now known as SR 86 in that area). Cxbrx (talk) 00:05, 14 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete/Redirect to Salton City, California. It was once a truck stop that is now within the area of Salton City, and there's no other notability for it. Reywas92Talk 01:15, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Salton City, California: per above.  // Timothy ::  talk  17:03, 16 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.