Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Truist


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Move a whole mess of articles‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ Per the below, which appears to have consensus. Should specific titles need tweaking, they can be adjusted at RM. But cascade TK within ten minutes Star   Mississippi  01:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Truist

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Disambiguation page not needed; see WP:PTM. Make Truist a primary redirect to Truist Financial. 162 etc. (talk) 17:58, 18 September 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Trying to understand Move recommendations that suggest moving this page to one occupied by an existing article. There needs to be more consensus on what to do here. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:58, 25 September 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:44, 3 October 2023 (UTC) Relisting comment: Final relist. This is a frustrating AFD because there are multiple move suggestions occurring, some of which can not be carried out by a closer. This article can not be moved to Truist Stadium because there is an article existing at this title and can't simply be deleted in favor of this article because it was not included in this nomination. Other editors want a simple page move to a page title that indicates that this is a disambiguation page which is a move that can be carried out outside of this AFD. If editors can't get on the same page with their recommendations, I think this might be closed as No consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Very Strong Keep - all of these can reasonably be referred to as simply "Truist", per WP:PTM. In addition, there is no primary topic for "Truist", so disambiguation is necessary. Finally, there are five stadiums with four different name types (Park, Field, Stadium, and Point), and keeping track of which is where and called what is confusing without some sort of list somewhere, which is partially what DAB pages are for, to avoid confusion. BilCat (talk) 18:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment There are five (!) American sports venues called "Truist Something". There needs to be some kind of disambiguation page listing all of them. Should it be at Truist or something else? I don't know. But, a reader thinking they want to know about Truist Field and finding it in a different city than they expected with nothing to point them in the direction of the stadium they actually want isn't helpful. NatureBoyMD (talk) 19:23, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Disambiguations-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 19:42, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to Truist Stadium, move Truist Stadium to a qualified title like Truist Stadium (Winston-Salem) or something, as it is definitely not the primary topic, and make Truist a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Truist Financial as requested by the nom. Then move the Truist Financial entry on the dab to the see also section, and update hatnotes as necessary. Mdewman6 (talk) 19:47, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Move as suggested by Mdewman6. "Truist" on its unknown own generally refers to the actual bank unambiguously. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:15, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Sports,  and United States of America. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:18, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to Truist Stadium. All of the stadiums that fall under Truist are there because Truist bank sponsors them and has the naming rights. Also as far as I can tell every sponsorship has a time period so all of these stadiums will eventually be renamed as something else. It's also consistent, if you search American Airlines you aren't sent to dismab page asking if you meant American Airlines Center. BHC (talk) 21:45, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Move to Truist (disambiguation) or perhaps Trust (stadium). Please note that Truist Stadium is not the right dab name here, per WP:DABNAME: The title of a disambiguation page is the ambiguous term itself, provided there is no primary topic for that term. If there is a primary topic, then the tag "(disambiguation)" is added to the name of the disambiguation page,. "Truist" is the name being disambiguated, not "Truist Stadium", which only represents 2 of the 5 actual names. &mdash;siro&chi;o 05:22, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Right, that's my issue with this dabpage - there is no ambiguous term. These are all PTMs.  The consensus so far seems to be that we want to keep the page, but really this isn't a disambiguation page; it's more of a List of stadiums sponsored by Truist Financial, and I don't see much precedent for keeping such an article. 162 etc. (talk) 15:27, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Make it a set index then. Except for Truist Financial, all the entries are stadiums (see their lede sentences) regardless of actual name. Then, as it serves a "disambiguation-like function", Truist stadium (disambiguation) can redirect there to disambiguate the two that actually have base name "Truist Stadium". Mdewman6 (talk) 15:50, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that can work. &mdash;siro&chi;o 23:26, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Support Mdwewman's proposal for this because it's 50/50 about who is searching for the bank or its sporting venues.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 00:50, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Move Truist to Truist (disambiguation), redirect Truist to Truist Financial as the company is the WP:PRIMARY target for which all the other things are named, move Truist Stadium to Truist Stadium (Winston-Salem) and redirect Truist Stadium to  Truist (disambiguation). This sorts out the problem raised by  in in the redirect above and should sort things out in the spirit of what everyone stated above. @,, , , and  how does this workable plan sound? The votes above weren't workable as pointed out by Liz. Best.4meter4 (talk) 02:03, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * This all sounds workable to me, and I will support this.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 02:05, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That doesn't resolve the concerns above that "Truist" is not the ambiguous term being disambiguated, with the opinion that most of the entries are then partial title matches. Not to complicate things, but I still believe my proposal above is the best solution, the problem is that prior to the last reslist nobody explicitly supported moving Truist Stadium to Truist Stadium (Winston-Salem), and that page must be moved to make this work. Rather than have a no consensus close and then having to redo all of this in an RM, I think a closer could find there is consensus to move the article currently at Truist Stadium to something, and be explicit in their close that there is not actually consensus on where it should be moved (essentially invoking WP:NOGOODOPTIONS as if this were an RM). To me, prior to the last relist there was a consensus for the moves I proposed, but obviously it's up to the closer's discretion on what there is actually consensus for. Mdewman6 (talk) 03:04, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * That is how I understood Mdewman6's suggestion, so I support this. Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 14:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I support 's proposal. To me this makes by far the most sense as Trust Financial is what most users are looking for and all the stadiums derive from them. BHC (talk) 01:18, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * To be clear, all of the move proposals above include redirecting Truist to Truist Financial. Can you clarify why you favor disambiguating at Truist (disambiguation) instead of a set index at Truist Stadium? Mdewman6 (talk) 01:32, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry somehow missed this ping. I support this plan. &mdash;siro&chi;o 17:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Move: per 4meter4 above, along with the cascade of moves. UtherSRG (talk) 11:20, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Move per 4meter4. Stifle (talk) 15:45, 13 October 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.