Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tsüngkotepsü - The Ao Naga Shawl


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. No clear consensus exists whether to delete, merge or keep as is (with a different title), although consensus seems to be in favor of keeping the content in one form or another. Since the last relist provided no further comments, I didn't feel another would be helpful since deletion was no longer a likely outcome.  So Why  07:12, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Tsüngkotepsü - The Ao Naga Shawl

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This is an essay, saying things such as "The Ao Nagas have a rich tradition and culture. Their dresses involve intricate designs which require exceptional craftsmanship". Also, it seems that this fails WP:GNG, as the subject, the Tsüngkotepsü, does not produce any reliable sources when searched. Thus, this article should be deleted. RileyBugz 会話 投稿記録 00:41, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:58, 10 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. WP:NOTESSAY. Ajf773 (talk) 01:43, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep Tribes are inherently notable. Mishigas (talk) 06:12, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I would suggest that you take a look at WP:NRVE. TheMagikCow (T) (C) 09:05, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * This isn't a tribe, it is a shawl. RileyBugz 会話 投稿記録  16:17, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The above user is a confirmed sockpuppet of . Sky  Warrior  19:10, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete borderline nonsense. The article appears to be about a piece/type of clothing as an artistic work, it's definitely not about "a tribe". Power~enwiki (talk) 06:20, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 *  Delete : Seems to be about an article of clothing - a shawl- specific to a certain tribe. I can't find any evidence to suggest that this is notable. TheMagikCow (T) (C) 09:05, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Merge: I have struck my delete !vote as the clean up, and the alternative term shown by have provided some new light on the subject. I can only find passing mentions about this clothing or mentions in not totally reliable sources, and this does not seem enough for a stand alone article. Nonetheless, there are quite a few mentions (,, ,  and ) that seem to justify a section. TheMagikCow (T) (C) 13:07, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom
 * Comment I've cleaned the article up a little so as to help the debate here PenaltyCard (talk) 09:40, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Fwiw there are refs for "Ao-Naga shawl" such this one, which refers to it is as the "famous" shawl, and also offers "mangkotepsu"  as an alternate search term. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:18, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:19, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:19, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Still, all I can find are passing mentions and I daresay TNT might apply anyway. I wondered if it couldn't be redirected to shawl, but it's not a very probable search term. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:27, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Still, redirects are cheap. So per MagikCow, I'd be fine with a selective merge to Ao Naga, which, I think, really should mention this distinctive and quite possibly notable shawl. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:12, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. abd rewrite, on the basis of the evidence above.  DGG ( talk ) 00:14, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename It likely needs a better rewrite than my five-minute job, and the title needs to be changed to just Tsüngkotepsü, but it seems to me to scrape notability PenaltyCard (talk) 16:36, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ad Orientem (talk) 16:13, 18 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.