Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Procedural close Article was deleted through Articles for deletion/Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 02:18, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

Delete: Notability is established through a single reference to an obscure journal yet the sentence presents it as if the person is widely considered to be a founder of contemporary dance in Armenia. I would appreciate review to this end. Charmanderblue (talk) 20:39, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Alternatives to deletion: Thank you very much for your notice. In the case of creating English wikipedia pages for the Armenians, there are some difficulties, as the articles are mainly in Armenian, or some cases in Russian. And very few in English. There are many online and offline articles in Armenian about Tsolak Mlke-Galstyan, proving that he has created the first contemporary dance in Armenia. I will also put here few articles in English here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1SEKsSOTvw

http://asbarez.com/97973/citf-and-adaa-host-us-premiere-from-mihr-theatre-of-armenia/

https://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/65602/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5N59ES_Fn8

And there is the book Contemporary Dance in the Former Soviet written by Ekateriana Vasenina, Russian contemporary dance historian and teacher and in this book, there is a quite detailed article about Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan and contemporary dance in Armenia, but it is in Russian.

https://www.abebooks.com/first-edition/Contemporary-Dance-Soviet-Union-TEXT-RUSSIAN/13046463426/bd

So I would like to ask you, as an experienced wikipedia editor/ administrator, to advice me what to to do in order to save Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan's wikipedia page and also to mention that Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan is one of the founders of contemporary dance in Armenia?

Thank you in advance! Stella Loretsyan (talk) 12:07, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The purpose of this discussion was for other seasoned editors to offer their two cents on the subject, preferably those that could assess the verifiability of the sources in Armenian/Russian. I will try and ping for them in other channels. Also, Youtube is never an acceptable source for WP:GNG. Refer to Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources for more on this. Charmanderblue (talk) 15:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Please read my post at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan (2nd nomination). Phil Bridger (talk) 17:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I completely agree that the word founder is not the correct one, though Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan staged the performances in contemporary dance from 2003, and there are a lot the festivals and video documentations, which prove that fact. And  before 2003 there were no theatres and performers who stated that they were working in contemporary dance. But I also understand that Wikipedia's rules are strict  and  II need to proove  word by word the statements I have written in this page. So I would like to know whether, instead of the sentence Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan is considered to be one of the founders of contemporary dance in Armenia from Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan's wikipedia page,  I can use the following sentence Tsolak MLKE-Galstyan is the  first ones who has developed contemporary dance in Armenia Stella Loretsyan (talk) 17:36, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


 * My apologies, due to an error on my behalf the discussion page had to be recreated in a proper manner and can now be found at Articles_for_deletion/Tsolak_MLKE-Galstyan. I'd appreciate if you could copy your last reply there for others to see. Thank you! Charmanderblue (talk) 17:38, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.