Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tssf

Vanity. Redirects Mathew Valente and TSSF should be deleted too, of course. Fredrik | talk 21:58, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, vanity. --Ianb 22:55, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * "Even maintains a profesional LiveJournal." Gee wiz! Thanks for sharing! Delete. Neutrality 00:18, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity and all its tentacles. Geogre 00:50, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete --Vik-Thor 02:44, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep national band "The Starting Line" on MCA has thanked him on thier C.D. setting him apart from average promoters. - 67.38.242.22 19:55:13, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, I was the one who added the page, not Mathew Valente himself, I added the 'vanity' in there and I recently removed it. However, Mathew Valente has made meaningful contributions to Final Fantasy remakes and is very well known within the Nobuo Uematsu's fan community for his contributions in the form of Soundfonts and other music to help others. This should be enough to keep (please remove my previous vote declaration because this one explains a bit more of my reasoning). Furthermore, his work on the Chrono Trigger ressurection project should be enough. - User: 66.93.247.62
 * Delete: nonnotable. Wile E. Heresiarch 14:54, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - UtherSRG 15:19, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, I didn't add it but I see it as being fair. - mvtssf 11:30, 12 Aug 2004 (Likely sock puppet - first and only posting)
 * keep, EZD (Likely sock puppet - first and only posting)
 * Delete - vanity - T&#949;x  &#964;  ur&#949;  20:47, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, with vanity removed and I think that Mathew Valente is notable enough to be posted here.--TME 857309 20:54, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC) (Likely sock puppet - first and only posting)
 * Delete, not notable + sockpuppets. -Sean Curtin 21:59, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. tssf is a very well known musician on several internet communities. Someone may wish to look up his name here to find out more about him without personally asking him, if this is kept. Also, whats the harm in leaving it here? - AaAA (Likely sock puppet - second posting - after one other VfD)
 * Delete. I'm quite sure he's a very nice guy, but being a nice guy or gal doesn't get you inclusion in an encyclopedia. Or everyone would be listing their mums. Don't take it as any kind of punishment, it's simply not a valid function of Wikipedia to make note of everyone who rocks or is otherwise nice. Aris Katsaris 02:33, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Vanity. Non-notable. "Known on several internet communities" doesn't count for much&mdash;the same could be said for me and I know I don't merit an article. Delete.  &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 03:41, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, if only to discourage this sockpuppet crap. Why can't these people would spend as much time actually researching something of importance and writing about it...? -- Jmabel 17:50, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)

Discussion follows:


 * They have other game musicians listed, why is there any exception here? - User: 66.93.247.62
 * I personally removed the vanity references, and I don't agree that Mathew Valente is "nonnotable" especially to the thousands who were recently brought aware of his work through Chrono Trigger: Resurrection, which was linked from Slashdot and Game Review pages for people to freely download his remakes. To the Fans of any Squaresoft game this person is genuinely worth keeping. - User: 66.93.247.62
 * You need to keep Tssf in here, he is a great person and deserves this right. He has done alot for the music community midi-wise and should take this honor. -kokiri_boy
 * Why delete him? He's a great guy who's really talented. Besides that, you list other game music musicians, why not him? It doesn't make sense to me... Keep him in. - walnut100
 * Keep tssf in here. He is a great musician, and a nice guy. And like others have said, you list other game music musicians, so why delete him and not the others?
 * Dont delete him!!! He rocks!!! - Nebetsu: The Slayer Of Weasels
 * Dont Delete TSSF he's a nice guy and his music rocks too!! - Easy D
 * Keep him, what's the harm of not doing so? He's done tons of work for many forums, people, etc... He's arranged tons of Zelda remakes and custom songs for me personally (for my fangames and custom games). Mathew has done great things for many communities and the least that you can do is let him keep his account. - Scrappersa
 * It's not an "account", it's an encyclopedia entry. -Sean Curtin 22:03, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * It puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again. - Mamoruanime
 * keep him because his name is 4 letters long, i mean what the hell, its only four letters! psshht - pâpÈr mÃçhË pÛppËt
 * How many potential "Sock Puppets" never post to Wiki at all until they see something that interests them 66.93.247.62 22:01, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * People use it as reference and find that there is no need to post anything, but as soon as soon as they try to defend something they believe in, you call them "sock puppets". I personally don't care if you guys delete this or not, as far as I'm concerned it's all about who's notable or who's not. I believe I've done enough for both the fan-gaming, and the game music scenes that it's not like I don't deserve a notable listing here. A lot of you call it vanity, but most of you don't even realize that I did not post this of myself. Someone else did. So if you're going to accuse me of self-promotion, then fine. Delete the damn thing. A lot of you don't know the whole story so you vote vanity, I bet it makes you feel powerful. I don't care anymore. -Mathew Valente 69.193.14.149 22:12, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Think of Wikipedia as a community. Some people live here (citizens). We edit, we collaborate, we register our identity, we join the community. Some people don't live here, but are still a part of the community, in some lesser sense (visitors) - they read some articles, and they might edit anonymously. I don't know any community that allows visitors to have voting rights. If these sock puppets wish to be full members of the community, they need to register their identities and participate *before* voting, not so that they can have voting rights, but because they care about the community and not about any one specific article. - UtherSRG 22:38, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

You don't get it. We KNOW which of these supposed edits are by sock puppets, and we KNOW that they don't get counted. There's no point in your continuing this nonsense, as only the votes of editors with a significant amount of contribution to the Wikipedia database will be considered. RickK 23:27, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)

I vote for "tssf" to stay. It's totally true,not spam.

My vote for him is to stay. He has given many valuable contributions to the community that many of you simply might not understand. Hes activly involved with the community and an honor to have. Requesting he be removed is like requesting Miss Spears be removed from publicity. Don't let said talent go unrecognized, embrace it : ) - PKGINGO


 * Did you even bother to read what I wrote just one paragraph above you? RickK 04:07, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)


 * RickK, this is clearly a wooly-footed centipede we're dealing with: a creature of at least 100 socks. Geogre 22:04, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * LOL! - UtherSRG 22:12, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I second that! In fact, I was looking for a sock in my dryer just this morning, one which I was sure I'd put in, but alas, 'twas gone.  That incident in turn made me think of this gentle discussion with its various and sundry versions of talking hosiery.  Then, it really hit me:  We may have finally discovered where all those lost socks really go!  Ren and Stimpy, eat your hearts out.  By the way, I found my sock.  It was in the washer.  It did not abandon me to become yet another sockpuppet.  Since I feel bad for punishing the sock needlessly, I must vote delete.  Since I have, in fact, voted once or twice on this page, I felt it was proper to allow my sock to type this particular vote.  Trouble is, all I got was dD&YR)TJsfig87348hnkaau&^$#*.  It is, after all, merely a sock. - Lucky 6.9 00:43, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: The name "Nebetsu: The Slayer Of Weasels" deserves points for originality.  I may have to steal that one! - Lucky 6.9 00:47, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment comment: I ran "dD&YR)TJsfig87348hnkaau&^$#*" through Rot-13 and it came back "B-Movie Bandit."  Thought you should know. - Lucky 6.9 00:50, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete musical vanity/self-promotion. -- Cyrius|&#9998; 05:18, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)