Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tube Bar prank calls (2nd nomination)


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The result was   keep. Consensus is to keep. As a personal side note I wonder if the "Mike Hunt" gag in Porkys might have been inspired by this? Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Tube Bar prank calls
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Promotional garbage Fasttimes68 (talk) 22:57, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:16, 2 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - Coverage in SPIN magazine, in Newsweek, in Rolling Stone, and in the Hudson Reporter. - Theornamentalist (talk) 02:23, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Being mentioned in a "list" article is not well sourced. And the Hudson Reporter article is pretty weak on sourcing.  In fact this article is based upon another alleged article of whose sourcing is unknown. Where is the notability???Fasttimes68 (talk) 04:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)


 * keep - they are historical prank calls. Disagree that the article is promotional garbage, if that is the case delete The Jerky Boys and any other prank calls. Tyros1972 (talk) 08:16, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Historical? If so, show the RS.  As for the other articles, feel free to nominate them for deletion, though I suspect the Jerkey Boys probably has dozens of sources and thus would survive.Fasttimes68 (talk) 04:26, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The Howard Stern Show is a RS Howard Stern Show.I don't now why you hate these so much? I grew up in NJ and know the calls but guess you didn't. Tyros1972 (talk) 11:22, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know that The Howard Stern Show would be really acceptable as a reliable source, but there is certainly coverage of the Tube Bar prank calls scattered over time to show that this topic has endured and isn't a onetime bit of coverage. The SPIN coverage that has been noted was from the June 2002 issue.  Not available with preview, but with snippets available are: Rolling Stone's alt-rock-o-rama from 1996 which states "Perhaps the best known of these items are the notorious "Tube Bar" tapes, which preserve an unidentified prank-caller's persistent harassment of short- fused, Newark, New Jersey, bar owner Red Deutsch. These tapes have spawned ..." and Alt. culture: an a-to-z guide to the '90s : underground, online, and over-the-counter from 1995 which states "...Bart Simpson's prank calls to Moe's Tavern ("I'm looking for an Al Coholic") borrow heavily from the legendary Tube Bar tapes that document the habitual harassment of a hot-headed Jersey City bartender named ..." -- Whpq (talk) 13:01, 6 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - The treatment of these crank calls in SPIN may be a list, but when its augmented with other coverage such as these books:, , , that suffices for me to say it is notable. -- Whpq (talk) 17:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
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