Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tudor Chirila


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. This individual may have a claim to notability as founder of the band Vama Veche (band) and might serve as a plausible, valid redirect, but the band itself offers no independent sourcing of notability. The bio itself does not establish notability and is a source of concern with regards to WP:BLP. I have not protected the deleted page, as only one editor has evidenced a desire to vandalize here and s/he is now blocked, but protection may be necessary if the page is recreated without addressing notability and verifiability concerns, and particularly if recreated as as an attack page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:13, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Tudor Chirila

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Notability not established. Was previously CSDed as nonsense, given that a previous reincarnation began solely as "LOL", and a second CSD was removed on numerous occasions. The article was also PRODed at one point, but no improvements were conducted to satisfy basic notability requirements.

In an earlier state, mentioned at WP:BLP/N, the article was rampant of BLP vios., original research and was uncited. Which was pretty much the entire page.

A general English Google query results in very few mentions, and the sources do not assert notability. The page, in its current state, states that "further information will be added soon." seicer |  talk  |  contribs  02:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The user TheRealPitbull has posted a lot of horrible things in his first article, each and every one of them violating the Wikipedia policies. I've tried to remove the things that were untrue, some of them being directed at me. Unfortunately, he keeps putting stuff back up and I'm sick of it. Can't you do something to stop all this? Most of the stuff he said (except for the birthdate and place of birth of the artist) is nonsense. Thank you. Regards, Pinkish1 (talk) 02:53, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: There is a conflict of interest between TheRealPitbull and Tudor Chirila, as evidenced by this comment, where TheRealPitbull states that they are are "professional partners" and "personal friends." seicer  |  talk  |  contribs  02:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * See also . JNW (talk) 03:11, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Please read the first ever article he wrote. His hateful words and lies are the ones that made me take action. He is NOT a friend and DOES NOT work with Tudor Chirila or his band Vama. Pinkish1 (talk) 02:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, as he is a third-billed actor in an internationally distributed film. I'm not sure the work with Vama (aka Vama Veche) is notable (we don't have an article on the band), but it may also be. If a user is violating BLP they can be subject to sanctions. (TheRealPitBull is courting a ban just by repeatedly removing the AFD notice.) Certainly, by claiming a relationship, we have a duty to judge him as if there were a conflict of interest, regardless. --Dhartung | Talk 03:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't add the (band), so I didn't see Vama Veche (band). Whoops. This means we can redirect to the band article if need be (and probably give the redirect edit protection). --Dhartung | Talk 05:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

If you give the redirect edit protection, please give the pages Vama Veche (band) and http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vama_Veche_(forma%C5%A3ie) protections as well, they refer to the same band (one is in English and one in Romanian) and the user might sign up under a new username and start this changing of pages all over again, targeting those 2. Thanx. Pinkish1 (talk) 09:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, Sir, all I say is you should be watching what he writes. I wish I could, but I cannot refresh the page every 2 minutes to see that he's added lies again. I'm glad his username/articles are under observation, that's all I wanted. Thank you. Pinkish1 (talk) 03:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment User talk:TheRealPitbull has been indef blocked. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 03:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak delete without prejudice - failure to establish notability; nothing to verify. The vandalism is a tangential issue; the article is the topic under discussion. -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  04:07, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Since notability isn't clear-cut and there's major WP:BLP problems, we should play it safe and Delete+Salt. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 04:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete (and salt) per Brewcrewer above. We can't take chances on BLP's.  Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  15:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Andrew. Eusebeus (talk) 00:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:N and WP:V — BQZip01 —  talk 06:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.