Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tunnel Inn, California


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The result was delete. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 21:21, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Tunnel Inn, California

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There are issues with relying on GNIS in California too. Tunnel Inn is not an unincorporated community, it was – you guessed it – an inn! See topo map (top center) in similar font to Portal Inn. Apparently they had good steak and the employees participated in a bowling league? Reywas92Talk 01:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Reywas92Talk 01:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Reywas92Talk 01:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment You should inform the article creator of this nomination, per Articles_for_deletion; it is the courteous thing to do. -- 20:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26  (spin me / revolutions) 15:12, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Did you run the coordinates through google maps? There appears to be a town there called "Tunnel Inn/Portal Inn".Americanfreedom (talk) 19:01, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm very well aware of this... Google imports its data from the shitty GNIS, which also says Articles for deletion/Susie, Washington is a "populated place" so it shows up on Google Maps! This is not the name of this settlement, and by the way, "town" is legally defined as an incorporated place in CA. Reywas92Talk 20:45, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 * "Shitty"? Uh-oh, looks like someone forgot WP:CIVIL was a thing...Americanfreedom (talk) 04:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 * L-O-fuckin-L, I've wasted too many hours cleaning up shitty articles like this one mass-created from this shitty database. Way too many damn errors in its classifications that people shouldn't be relying on to blindly assume notability. Reywas92Talk 05:47, 5 February 2020 (UTC)


 * delete There's definitely a clump of houses and such in this area, but nothing except for words on topo maps gives it a name. Searching for it comes up with nothing but typical geoclickbait, and less of that than usual. Mangoe (talk) 02:27, 5 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep. I found at least three Tunnel Inns in California, one in Lafayette, CA, which is the one Reywas92 mentioned as having good steaks and a bowling league.  There seems to have been another in Sacramento.  By searching for "Tunnel Inn Shasta", I did find these articles Bar fight at the Tunnel Inn, which supports the Tunnel Inn being only an inn, Timber blaze under control, says "prevent the fire from reaching the Tunnel Inn area, a heavily populated area," supports keeping the article, Obit that mentions that the wife and son were "both of the Tunnel Inn District," which supports keeping the article.  Looking at WP:GEOLAND, this place is not obviously in the category of "Populated, legally recognized places", though it did have a FIPS code and it is listed in a California Roster of Federal, State, County and City Officials 1964, so it does have some legal recognition.  As far as "Populated places without legal recognition," I've only found trivial coverage in newspapers, so it fails that test.  On the basis of the FIPS code and being in the roster, I feel the article meets WP:GEOLAND.  Cxbrx (talk) 18:20, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * All of the railroad spurs of Articles for deletion/Susie, Washington have the same five-digit census codes. They're automatically provided for everything in the GNIS and is not a statement of being a legally recognized populated place. The California Roster I assume uses the same data from USGS, but the same page that lists "Tunnel Inn, Shasta" has a "Union Creek, Trinity", which is only in the GNIS as a stream, as well as "Union Air Terminal, Los Angeles": Hollywood Burbank Airport is not a populated place! Reywas92Talk 19:38, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm not that up on FIPS.  Good call on the Roster.  Until I found those two sources, I would have moved for weak delete, so I'll change my position to Weak Delete now.  Cxbrx (talk) 19:46, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


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