Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turkish Genocide by Greeks in the Balkans


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. Mailer Diablo 00:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Turkish Genocide by Greeks in the Balkans
POV article with no sources Jaco  plane  04:06, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - I should point out that I have blocked the author of this article for 48 hours. However, he seems to have circumvented his block, so he can comment here. Jaco  plane  04:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Extreme delete. POV from the get-go.  User:Zoe|(talk) 04:25, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. political insanity, unverifiable.  psch  e  mp  |  talk  06:46, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete- February 2006, article massacred. Reyk 06:59, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete POV infected. Blnguyen 07:04, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete of course. Title is by definition POV and it's impossible (and selective) to compile such a list. Also, I have a suspicion that many of the events listed there were Turkish genocides against Greeks. The Messolonghi incident certainly was. --Latinus (talk (el:)) 09:39, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong delete as above.--み使い Mitsukai 14:16, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong delete Extreme POV (could this be a db-attack? Avi 15:53, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment POV is not a reason to delete; it may be a reason to rename. The solution to POV is to *edit*. I did a quick search on google "Missolonghi Turkish Massacre" and found several references (I don't know how credible) to an alleged series of massacres of Turkish people by the Greek independence forces. [] (A Turkish source, but we don't discount German or Jewish sources related to the Holocaust, or Armenian ones related to that genocide.) See also [] an ebook of unknown authorship but which reads on a quick scan as some reprint of a public domain item of the late 19th or early 20th century.  Another Turkish source comes up on an obviously biased website "greekmurderers.com" []. So at least the point of view has been put forward that these massacres did indeed take place; there are probably conflicting accounts. I am not as well versed on the subject as others: could there have been such massacres? If so, then edit the article to make the cases pro & con & NPOV.  If we delete the article are we saying that the alleged massacres did not happen or that they cannot be verified or that we as editors cannot be bothered to try to untangle the truth.  Carlossuarez46 01:34, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as unsalvageably POV, unless that's a Carlossuarez46 volunteering to edit it over the weekend? Stifle 09:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment not my area of expertise, but I just have difficulty with POV being a reason to delete; we have many articles here that are POV and have been flagged thus for months but there is no reason to delete them. There may indeed be 2 sides to this article, I just have difficulty with deleting something because the otherside hasn't (yet) been written up.  Perhaps we can solicit someone with a pro-Greek bent to have at it. Carlossuarez46 17:38, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Completely POV. Aldux 11:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete - made by Steven Banks/Blue sea, someone who in my opinion should be on hard ban. --Khoikhoi 00:36, 14 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.