Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turkish Holocaust Chronological Index

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. Votes by new users and/or likely sockpuppets were discounted. Postdlf 23:01, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Turkish Holocaust Chronological Index
Article part of user:Argyrosargyrou ongoing campaign on Wikipedia to attack Turkish people, article POV ridden, has no purpose on Wikipedia. Suggest it be deleted E.A 12:38, 29 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep There was a Holocaust against Armenians, Greeks, Kurds, Time for Turkey to accept responsibility, I was told hundred of stories from people that lost whole families, the racisms came from the Turkish side. Elias
 * possible sockpuppet- User:67.188.241.70 has made two contribs, both on the VfDs relating to the Turkey/Greece/Cyrpus dispute. Feco 16:55, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This is an excellent article that clearly shows how the Greek people of Turkey were systimatically terminated by the Turkish authorities. The Greek genocide was part of the big plan of the Ottoman Turkey to exterminate all of her minorities (look at the Armenian Genocide) ... and that is exactly what they achieved.  Please do not allow them to keep on deniying these HORIFIC facts!
 * Yet another possible sockpuppet. Anon's 212.205.253.21 only contributions have been to Votes for deletion/Hellenic Genocide and this VfD. Sarg 20:36, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep This article contains usefull external links to many official documents, concerning genocedes, commited by Turkey. Tabib 07:41, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * possible sockpuppet: Dionis' only actions are votes to keep on Votes for deletion/Hellenic Genocide and Votes for deletion/Turkish Holocaust Chronological Index, a revert to Argyro's version of the Hellenic Genocide and a comment in favour of Argyrosargyrou on Requests_for_comment/Argyrosargyrou (Special:Contributions/Dionis Dionis' contributions). - Snchduer 16:34, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep This article is part of the Hellenic Genocide page and also ties in with pages on the Armenian and Assyrian Genocides. It presents internationaly recognised facts and figures concerning the holocaust perpetuated by the Turks in Asia-Minor and elsewhere. This holocaust is equivalent to the NAZI holocaust and this pages deletion is equivalent to trying to conceal the NAZI holocust and rewrite history. E.A is a well known Turkish Cypriot nationalist and apologist and is responsible for repeated Vandalism of the Cyprus dispute page whenever anyone adds anything that shows Turks in a bad light and reveals the fact and figures about the atrocities it perpetrated.--Argyrosargyrou 14:08, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep Article which presents facts should be keeped, votes for deletion with reasons like "there were lots of similar cases in history" or "somebody was insulted in discussions" should not be treated as reason to delete information. Also, VfD should not be used as method to constrain some factually substantiated information. --Gvorl 13:34, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It can never be pleasing to read about such horrible facts, but ignoring or even denying them is even worse. The article must be kept. --Spryom 07:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article may be poor quality, but the persistent VfD requests look like an Assume Bad Faith campaign against Argyrosargyrou. This, along with the other articles he has contributed, should be revised to a higher quality of article. Equally, he should assume good faith in anyone trying to revise these articles. Phlogistomania 14:29, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, but I'm not sure in what form. It seems that a long-continued hostility between two ethnicities is worth noting, and a list of dates and pointers to individual events in that hostility is probably useful.  POV as it stands, though, but should be improvable.  Frjwoolley 18:19, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is POV, it needs a lot of editing but there are some very useful facts. If an article is just stating some facts that someone doesn't like, does not mean it is anti-something. —Geraki 2005-06-13 T 14:09 Z


 * Delete user:Argyrosargyrou has created or manipulated a family of articles bordering on racism towards Turkish people: Hellenic Genocide (up for deletion), Cyprus issue (deleted), Cyprus problem (deleted) Cyprus dispute (currently protected following his ongoing reverts which earned him a 3RR ban) as well as contributing to a host of others which show only contempt for Turkish people, Turkish Holocaust Chronological Index being one of them. And now i am being insulted as being a "well know Turkish Cypriot nationalist" --E.A 14:28, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete This is yet another anti-Turkish rant. A lot of peoples may be guilty of similar histories of genocides, or killings of whole populations. This is no reason to include a thing like this in an encyclopedia. Simply racist. - Snchduer 18:35, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Revisionism and racism have no place in Wikipedia, except as articles. This seems to call for a RfA. Sarg 19:06, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete for reasons others have stated. --Xcali 21:14, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, there has now been an RfC filed on Argyrosargyrou. RickK 21:34, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, this type of biased entries serve hatred propaganda and racism nothing else. -Cans&#305;n 23.47, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - information about verified events can be merged into other articles. These events can be addressed in neutral manner - Skysmith 08:26, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - having a chip on one's shoulder is not good for creating NPOV... gren 10:33, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete for same reasons as for Hellenic Genocide. --Kiand 21:40, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Articles like this are sprouting left and right. Hopefully the RfC on the primary contributor will address the problem. Feco 04:29, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Hopelessly POV. -- ChrisO 07:27, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete pov. Grue 11:04, 3 Jun 2005
 * Delete Reeks partisanship. Imagine seeing this in a printed encyclopædia. Adoniscik 17:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.