Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turn It Up! (Music TV)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  ark  // 09:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Turn It Up! (Music TV)

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Completed nomination for IP. Statement copied from talk page below. lifebaka++ 06:36, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

note: nominator left this msg: Would a registered user please complete the nomination process for Turn It Up! (Music TV)? 118.209.200.81 (talk) 06:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Nominated this article for deletion. Has several problems including WP:V (Couldn't find any references in the article), Wikipedia:No_original_research (Author clearly has intimate knowledge of the subject), Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view (Author is likely a sockpuppet for the one of the producers - Anthony Chidiac), Wikipedia:Notability (After having done research, can not find anything reliable except downstream references from Wikipedia)). At best, this leaves little content for an encyclopedia except as part of a list. It should be deleted.118.209.200.81 (talk) 06:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  —Grahame (talk) 01:40, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. The show seems to have been only broadcast on community and obscure satellite TV channels and WP:V and WP:N aren't met. A Google search didn't turn up any useful references, which is rather suspicious given the grand claims of importance made in the article. Nick-D (talk) 06:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - Agree with Nick-D. I could find no reliable sources who care to write about this show. Clearly written by someone close to the show/Mr Chidiac so there is lots of detail - just none that I could verify through independent channels. Peripitus (Talk) 07:54, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 12:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * note: - nominator and his "gang" are initiating a process razing information across wikipedia. I hope a senior admin is monitoring this activity closely.  Its not just this article but a large group of others. The initiator IP always seems to be a Floating IP from [INTERNODE-MELBOURNE], so likely one and the same person and likely sockpuppet of an existing admin or otherwise.  Why does the process need to be dishonest? --203.219.135.147 (talk) 15:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC) — 203.219.135.147 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep You know what - its a fait-de-complait anyway. Episodes on youtube are noted as per links:  should likely be put to references, but I am scared of doing that job as you guys will simply delete this anyway.  This show returns to air in Australia in mid April 2010 - David Shawl (MJ's This Is It) is DP, and shown to 160 TV stations through Asia/Japan via ABC Australia Television.  Whilst it started out on community TV (like Rove Did), show became a monster and shown around the world (asia, Canada etc), only went into hiatus for reasons unknown to me.  SBS bought the concept back a few years ago with Producers permission, and it also did very well.  But why bother, the "gang" here headed by mystery IP from [INTERNODE-MELBOURNE] and also this mystery IP seems to be able to delete its editorial history after razing [Anthony Chidiac] previously.  Funny thing that???  or maybe im onto something collusional?? please help me address my paranoia, thanks. --203.219.135.147 (talk) 15:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC) — 203.219.135.147 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This IP user has been blocked as a reincarnation of a previously blocked promoter in the same topic area and has a COI with the subject of the article. FT2 (Talk 08:55, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * comment looks like the gang are at it again...first a floating IP from Internode requests for some registered editor/admin to initiate an AfD of an article, then the raze gang come across and give it the thumbs up to kill it off. I know hundreds of TV shows that didnt make 30 episodes and enjoyed less success than this music show, and are included here on wikipedia.  This show was picked up by Warner Bros US (iTV).  Stalled production of 2009 series due to death of Michael Jackson on the day of the scheduled interview, word is April 2010 now.  I see this same set of floating ip's from internode are at it deleting/razing well over 50 articles - some have been on wiki for many years.  I note only some I've had a go at, and some I havent.  To the gang of three who are raping wikipedia using a dishonest way of initiating an AfD (or perhaps likely one with a few sockpuppets) hope your game is over soon, you will be found out.  Next, try the racehorse profiles here on wiki - they havent won any notable horseraces so why are they still here on wikipedia?  really!!!  Theres 200 there for you to cull.  Feeling really deflated here as a novice editor thankyou very much. I wont be voting as we all know where this will be going anyway due to floating IP nomination/single purpose admin/editor completing this process --Cafejunkie (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: far from being a "novice editor", this user has been blocked as a reincarnation of a previously blocked promoter in the same topic area and has a COI with the subject of the article. FT2 (Talk 08:55, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per lack of substantial coverage in ndependent reliable sources. Even assuming the article is true though, it's still of equivalent notability to a public-access show. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  23:49, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment It would appear that the SPAs who attempted to stack the discussion at Articles for deletion/Anthony Chidiac (3rd nomination) in favour of keeping the article are at it again in this related article. Nick-D (talk) 06:15, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Closing admin note (socking of AFD): - The main sock ring Nick-D mentions has been blocked. The closing admin will need to look carefully at this. The sock user is into self-promotion, and has a history of trying to obtain promotion on material with cites that are poor evidence of real notability and/or self-created material. Also past AFDs on his topics have been stacked by his IP and user account socks. FT2 (Talk 08:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete, garden variety community television show. Not a judgement on the quality of the programme itself of course, but I'm not seeing any coverage of it in reliable sources.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 11:48, 3 February 2010 (UTC).


 * comment oh my. admins accusing editors of this show as sockpuppets, initiating 'ring' of deletionists vandalising wikipedia (i've seen this group do the same for a few other good articles too). I honestly think all these people should get temporarily blocked from editing here for a few weeks and have a good think about what you are all doing.  I remember this show.  It was on Channel 8 when I was in PNG, Channel 8 is a terrestrial TV station.  It was featured in the local TV guide there while I was on holidays back in '96.  Thats 14 years ago peoples..just because there isnt much e-media available its easy to cite the TV show itself (the Youtube clips) the people on it (Paula Abdul, Madonna, etc. etc.) and those artists wont do community TV. Duh.  Make sure you have conclusive evidence before claiming someone as a sock, and that goes for both sides of this debate.  Shameful behavior and attitudes all.  I wont vote as the process has been abused and this is not the first example of this abhorrent behaviour by both sides --60.240.117.215 (talk) 12:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Hmm, I didn't find it hard to get sourcing - google notes "Turn It Up!" MTV Sessions shown on MTV UK. I cant view video feed as its UK regionalised.  Had Pixie Lott as host.  I dont think you should be fixated at the Chidiac involvement, Chris Gabardi (all saints, Hey Dad!) and others mentioned on this article are also personally referenced and were also involved in this production.  Im basing my keep finding on 1) easily referenceable material 2) the opposing above commentary belittling article without looking into it more thoroughly.  Useful information should not be deleted.  This info is useful as a reference if this show is to make a "comeback" as mentioned in above commentary. --60.240.117.215 (talk) 13:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC) — 60.240.117.215 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment Please refer to Sockpuppet investigations/Achidiac/Archive for proof of the socking (though I suspect that you're the same editor judging from the fact that your post repeats the arguments made by the socks). Nick-D (talk) 07:38, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: 60.240.117.215 is exceedingly likely ✅ as the same user as the rest of the socks. I repeat my suggestion of packing it in. FT2 (Talk 16:18, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:N, the nomination statement and Lankiveil's argument above. Orderinchaos 14:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.