Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turone's goal


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The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 11:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Turone's goal

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Doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY, certainly not for a stand-alone article. Perhaps if there was a match article or another redirect title, but I couldn't find any. Boleyn (talk) 06:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:46, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


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 * Merge selectively to 1980–81 Serie A, or another better target. Certainly not notable enough for an individual article about it, but worth a few lines in an article somewhere. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:40, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Searching Italian sources for "il Gol di Turone" shows that it's clearly notable, even 40 years later. Eligible for a stand-alone article.    all qualify for WP:GNG and were all within the first ten results. Needs improvement, not deletion. SportingFlyer  T · C  09:19, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per SportingFlyer. Whilst not The hand of God, it is still significantly covered.--Mvqr (talk) 10:17, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:53, 16 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per SF. GiantSnowman 20:42, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Definitely meets notability criteria. Just needs sourcing. REDMAN 2019  ( talk ) 13:31, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Firstly, the fact that something become a media event does not necessarily make it encyclopaedic according to Wikipedia's instructions and in this case it is an obvious unfair highlight since the disallowed goal did not decide the 1980-81 Serie A (in the two points for a win era): the match ended in a draw and Roma on the last matchday lost the title after drawing with Avellino. If Roma had beaten Juventus at Turin (until the match Juve was 1st with one point over Roma and after Roma would be with one point over Juve) and the results had been the same until the end of the championship, the title would have been decided in a play-off match, but that is unverifiable speculation that Wikipedia does not permit add in the articles. On the other hand, the case of the unrelated Maradona's goal of the century, cited in this discussion, is analogic and articles in Wikipedia are not created in that way, but by fulfilling a number of criteria established by consensus of WP:FOOTY. In the article on Maurizio Turone, who scored that goal, it is already explained because it is linked to his career (along with certain controversies about the 1983-84 European Cup final) and, at most, it could be cited in the article on the Juventus-Roma rivalry if someone creates it being related with the rebirth of that opposition in 1980s, but this article itself should be deleted.--Dantetheperuvian (talk) 08:39, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It's an event which passed GNG and more importantly continues to have significant coverage - it's not UNDUE to have an article on it. SportingFlyer  T · C  09:28, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Media impact is one thing, impact based in facts and consequences are another. The 1980-81 Serie A was not decided by that episode, which, by the way, was never clarified. Moreover, the issue here is if Turone's goal deserves its own article, not whether any mention of it should be deleted.--Dantetheperuvian (talk) 10:10, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep the fame of this gol is so longstanding and still vivid as to have named two recent books, Mai più il gol di Turone and Il gol di Turone era bono. Still this year it has received a lot of coverage (including on TV) because of its 40 years anniversary, examples, , . Whatever it was decisive for the 1980/81 Scudetto or not it is a minor point, as well as if it was valid or not, as his reputation has transcended that season and it is still described as "the mother of all the refereeing controversies" and it is still discussed (or used as a symbol) as such.   151.53.84.35 (talk) 16:05, 23 June 2021 (UTC)


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