Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tuxedo (software)


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The result was   keep. Also SK#1 The Bushranger One ping only 03:58, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Tuxedo (software)

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I wrote a detailed reason for deletion, but it was rejected (and deleted) by twinkle because I linked to eHow, which is blacklisted... Great. Here's a much shorter version.

No notability established by reliable sources. There are only two refs provided, one of which makes no mention of the software, and the other is a primary source written by the software architects.

I did a search, and was unable to turn up any reliable secondary sources. I found one article on eHow, which itself is not a reputable source, but which makes a claim of notability. The quote is: "The Oracle Tuxedo has acquired 80 percent of the market share. Customers including FedEx, Avis Budget Group, JPMorgan Chase, Wachovia, University of Arizona and University of Wisconsin"

I can find no backing for that statement elsewhere. I propose this article be merged with BEA Systems or Oracle, and Tuxedo_(software) become a redirect. However, I don't believe there is any salvageable content, so that will (and should) amount to deletion. &mdash; Jess &middot; &Delta;&hearts; 17:55, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Being a long way from home I'll defer digging out detailed evidence of notability, but Tuxedo is a well-known longstanding piece of integration software and a surprise nomination. One can find companies like RedHat specifically seeking to buy/build to provide rival tools:, for example. AllyD (talk) 21:33, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. Plenty of coverage in independent reliable sources can be found via these searches. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:30, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep it has some historic value, alas before the days of the web so perhaps not much coverage is online. I did turn up some papers in academic journals for example, so it was notable for its time. Definitely needs citations and other work. W Nowicki (talk) 18:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Another search that turns up plenty of results with a bit more time-depth is this, giving for example "Tuxedo is a vintage TP [transaction-processing] monitor" (from 1997). But while its finest days may be behind it, it is a reference point: the O'Reilly book on Enterprise JavaBeans (2001, ISBN 0596002262) opens its discussion on transaction processing in relation to both CICS and Tuxedo. AllyD (talk) 17:11, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - A major peice of middleware from way back when. Coverage exists in a lot of books.  For example, there's quite a lot in this book. -- Whpq (talk) 17:35, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - A good number of sources have been provided, which appears sufficient to establish notability. The article is still in dire need of inline sourcing, but it should be worked on rather than deleted. Any admin, please feel free to close this as a speedy keep, per A1. Thanks.  &mdash; Jess &middot; &Delta;&hearts; 18:04, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Note to Admin - The above !vote is actually a witdrawal of the nomination by the nominator. -- Whpq (talk) 18:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
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