Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Twelve Oaks Lodge


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  essay  // 12:07, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Twelve Oaks Lodge

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This seems to be a purely local campaign of no encyclopaedic interest. It is of dubious neutrality, and seems to be dealing with a current issue. I came close to speedying this as non-notable, but it does have refs, so I invite other views  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  06:17, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete The sources in the article amount to two according to wp:GNG which says multiple stories from the same source count as a single source since they are all on the same subject (facility closure). Given its age - 78 years - I figured there must be other sources offline but a search of InfoTrac, ProQuest, Newsbank etc.. found nothing prior to recent events. Google Books is nursing home directory listings. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 05:17, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The following was left on the AfD talk page, moved here in good faith as probably intended. -- Green Cardamom (talk) 04:36, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Twelve Oaks is steeped in history in our little town. History should not be lost.  When our girl scouts, boy scouts and 3rd-5th graders must do research on their community, they need access to historical information such as this.  Please don't delete the Twelve Oaks page.  Its important for scout leaders like myself to be able to find these small historical landmarks in our area. 68.190.237.9 (talk) 03:40, 17 October 2013 (UTC)Leslie
 * Then you need to start a local history website. It's not for Wikipedia. No notability. Delete. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:25, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: A very very brief look tells me there could be a case for notability here.  The LA Times covered the dispute, where citizens asked to have the facility designated as historic .  At the very least, the content could be worth some treatment in the article on the town's history.--Milowent • hasspoken  19:46, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ymblanter (talk) 20:13, 25 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Weak keep My first instinct was to say delete - this appears to be a site of purely local interest, not designated historic. There has been a recent flurry of publicity as local activists try to prevent development at the site, but that appears to be issue-driven publicity and not to have gotten any coverage outside the immediate town of Glendale. However, it turns out there was quite a bit of earlier coverage in the Los Angeles Times, spanning many decades, which suggests to me that the place may be notable after all. If the article is kept I will undertake to add these additional sources to it. Regardless of whether it is kept, a sentence or two should be added to the article Glendale, California. --MelanieN (talk) 00:06, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, per sustained local coverage identified by User:MelanieN. Lankiveil (speak to me) 05:48, 2 November 2013 (UTC).
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