Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Twenty Twenty (group)


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The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 21:47, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Twenty Twenty (group)

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This article may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. No charting musical releases, and sources are either mostly from primary sources. Article lists TokyoHive and Arama! Japan as sources which may be unreliable, as Arama! Japan is a gossip blog and TokyoHive translates but does not credit their sources. lullabying (talk) 00:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 05:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 05:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - I agree with the nominator on WP:TOOSOON. The group has only been covered in gossip sites and industry press releases. The fact that they were intended to be "temporary" by design, and then got "delayed" by the pandemic, indicates that anything this group happens to accomplish is still in the vague future. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 15:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep This group has been covered in other sites. The ones added are in English, but there are plenty of sites in Japanese (including Tower Records, Yahoo News, Oricon) that have covered them. The group was created to mainly sing the song "Smile", which has been recently released digitally, to gather funds to help out on the COVID-19 case. It is still to release a CD (in August). It may still chart on that one. I am getting more links to the information, so it is more credible than those cited here.SugaShikaoFans (talk) 01:02, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It would be better to create an article for "Smile", then, if it charts. Yahoo! News is a news aggregator that archives articles from other websites, so I don't think it would count as a reliable source. Tower Records is a retailer that obviously would write articles to promote an artist/song. As of thus far, it doesn't pass WP:NMUSIC and the body text has some WP:ORIGINAL. lullabying (talk) 02:06, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I have the info. It is not only for the single, but also for the group. Sure, Tower Records would write about the promotion, but there are more articles out there than just those.SugaShikaoFans (talk) 02:17, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You would need to share sources about the group. As of now, the sources in the article are either from press releases or unreliable sources. They also do not pass WP:NMUSIC. Furthermore, there's a lot of WP:FAN in regards to the members -- it is not necessary to list who is on hiatus, etc. lullabying (talk) 02:25, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I am. I am gathering as many sites as I can with info on the group, as well as the single. I am currently editing the page adding those links.SugaShikaoFans (talk) 02:28, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and regarding the members, at least one of them, Yuya Tegoshi, is very relevant since the news hit very recently about his failure to "obey" the rules about going out in the restricted time. Since the group was formed with the pandemic in mind, both as a way to help gather funds to help the medical community, and as a way to amuse fans who had to stay home during the restriction period, his activities during this period put the others at risk. His choices had him banned of the group / unit, and eventually, out of the company, for being a bad influence. As for the others, their condition didn't allow them to participate in the project.SugaShikaoFans (talk) 02:43, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm well aware of Yuya Tegoshi, but for the others, it's not important. Since the project involves almost all recording artists at Johnny & Associates, the article might as well redirect there. lullabying (talk) 02:53, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  10:10, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is just a temporary group without much attention yet.Resowithrae (talk) 16:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete as TOOSOON: even a rudimentry understanding of the language indicates the paucity of the sourcing: as noted, it's a concoction of WP:MILL, WP:SPS and generally fluffy press-releases, all of which are insufficient to pass WP:BASIC, and especially not in an article with BLP considerations. ——  Serial  16:27, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Johnny & Associates sounds reasonable as the group appears to fail WP:BAND. Ifnord (talk) 19:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)


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