Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Two Indeterminate Lines


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The result was merge to Bernar Venet. Spartaz Humbug! 07:11, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Two Indeterminate Lines

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No evidence of notability in the article, and a check for sources doesn't find any significant coverage. I would be fine with a redirect to Bernar Venet or to List of public art in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Massachusetts-related deletion discussions. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 04:37, 3 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep, the standard for references for artworks on Wikipedia seems to be a page or catalog link at the exhibiting museum, which in this case is MIT. The sculptor, Bernar Venet, is notable, and the overall MIT collection is notable. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment it isn't clear to me that there are clear guidelines for artworks themselves. There should be. I have seen recently the argument that inclusion in a National Gallery is equivalent to an Encyclopedia, thus establishes N. It seems like just about every public figurative sculpture (aka Monument) in Boston has a page. Most of these only have one citation, to their entry in the Smithsonians' Save Outdoor Sculpture! initiative, "a community-based effort to identify, document, and conserve outdoor sculpture in the United States. The program was initiated in 1989 and ended in 1999." This seems like two very different standards are being applied, largely based on the subject matter of the artwork. Theredproject (talk) 15:31, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Merge to Bernar Venet There is so little information in the article that it wouldn't be a problem to include the content there. We have a don't have List of works by Bernar Venet that has become so unwieldy that it is in desperate need of being split into smaller articles. And while we're at it, merge Arc_de_124,5° too. Vexations (talk) 16:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep (disclaimer: creator) per Talk page discussion. Seems this is a series of works, so I think the article could be expanded. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 14:29, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , but then shouldn't the title of the article be Indeterminate Lines ? That's the name of the series.  Vexations (talk) 16:26, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm not sure. All the links I shared on the article's talk page are for "Two Indeterminate Lines". This is why I wish editors would flag possible AfDs on talk pages before jumping straight to AfD. --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , well, we'd end up with something like three articles, one for Venet himself, one for the Arcs series and one for the Indeterminate Lines. We have plenty of images on Commons:Category:Sculptures_by_Bernar_Venet I'm not opposed to that in principle, but I think the content simply isn't there yet. Maybe we can translate some of the French article? Vexations (talk) 18:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


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