Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Two Tales of One Tomorrow


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, no traces of notability have been found--Ymblanter (talk) 08:36, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Two Tales of One Tomorrow

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One-ref stub with no assertion of notability per WP:NALBUMS, and no evidence of it. This is one of a loooong series of WP:POINTy creations by User:Jax 0677, which are intended solely to increase the link count on a navbox. In this case the navbox is Doogie White, whose deletion the creator is contesting at TFS 2013 March 16.

This falls so far short of notability that I PRODded it, but sadly the creator contested the PROD despite offering no claim of notability, let alone evidence of notability. The grounds for contesting was that "due to added ref" ... but the reference was added was to the album's entry on allmusic.com, which is just a tracklisting, with no review.

Note that this one of 3 AFDs for non-notable albums by Cornerstone (Danish band). The others are at AFD:Out of the Blue (Cornerstone album) and AFD:In Concert (Cornerstone album).

Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:20, 28 March 2013 (UTC) It's also a pity that Jax yet again misrepresents Wikipedia talk:Notability (music). There is no requirement to merge, let alone to merge losslessly. The guidance at Notability (music) remains that info on non-notable topics "may be included in other ways in Wikipedia, provided that certain conditions are met". There is definitely no requirements to splat a musician's article with the tracklist of a non-notable album by a non-notable band of which he happened to be a member. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:27, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. The band itself does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:BAND - at best, it will be redirected to the notable band member's page. Articles on top of that for the non-notable group's individual albums are unnecessary, and none of them meet WP:NALBUMS.  Gong   show  16:50, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 *  Keep (or merge LOSSLESSLY)  - Per this discussion, the album and its details should (at a minimum) be merged LOSSLESSLY into Cornerstone (Danish band) if the article is kept.  If it is deleted, the album and its details should be merged LOSSLESSLY into Doogie White. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:30, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply. I have lost count of the number of recent AFDs in which I have seen Jax commenting. In none of them have I seen him pay any attention to the basic notability criteria at WP:GNG, and he remains true to form here.
 *  Reply  - There is plenty of space in the article for track listings and album details. Therefore, now that it is on Wikipedia and properly sourced, it should not be removed so long as the artist or ensemble is notable.   If the article becomes too large, then this falls under a size split. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:35, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply. Jax, if you want to add a tracklist for a  non-notable album, add it to the band's article.  But please stop this disruptive  and childish game of creating articles on non-notable albums and then arguing for lossless merge IN CAPS BECAUSE YOU WANT TO SHOUT. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:01, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:16, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:16, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 *  Reply  - I have not created an article on a non-notable album in some time, even though WP:BRD allows me to do so. There exists a school of thought discussed here stating "such merges to an artist's page tends to be too messy".  In fact, the notability of some of the albums that BHG nominated is being corroborated slowly but surely, hence the benefit of a full AfD. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply. On the contrary, you have created at least a dozen articles on non-notable albums over the last 2 weeks. And WP:BRD does not permit you to repeatedly ignore WP:GNG. I urge you to stop, or I will seek sanctions to restrict your editing. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:30, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - I have not created any article about an album in the past 24-48 hours, my prime direction most recently has been merging the albums with the artist or ensemble page. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:57, 30 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Doogie White, there is nothing at all to merge. J04n(talk page) 00:55, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.