Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ty Murray's Celebrity Bull Riding Challenge


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Shimeru (talk) 06:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Ty Murray's Celebrity Bull Riding Challenge

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As this article's creator back when it first aired, I expected it to become notable for all the stars in it, but it has unfortunately remained a very unnotable series, failing WP:N. While it was fun to watch, it never gained any real media attention beyond CMT's own promotional materials and press releases. No reviews, not even much news coverage when the stars got hurt. All three sources in the article are from CMT itself and Amazon.com. Only ran six episodes and apparently was not successful enough to do it again. Fails WP:N, but as others have edited not really a CSD candidate. Prod removed by new editor User:Inniverse with note of "remove prod - notable TV series" but without giving any actual demonstrable notability or addressed concerns of prod reason. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 15:24, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. — --  AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 15:26, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per author. Note that you could probably have this CSD'd via db-author, since it appears you have been the primary contributor. &mdash; Timneu22 · &#32; talk 17:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete due to lack of notability. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  20:13, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep This reality TV series aired on the CMT Network (available to more than 84 million homes in the USA), and it was broadcast internationally across the USA and Canada The program was also available in other international markets. The program may not have been successful enough to have been renewed for a second season, but it is notable by wikipedia standards and it qualifies for an article. Inniverse (talk) 23:01, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * And? What channel it aired on is irrelevant as is how many homes said channel reaches. That doesn't make it notable. Nor is how many of those folks watched it, not that we know, or if it was a "success" or not. Notability requires actual significant coverage in reliable, third-party sources, not just regurgitations of CMT's own press releases, minor foot notes in articles about the celebrities themselves, and CMT's own coverage of the show. The show does not, in face, meet Wikipedia's standards of notability. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 23:15, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Actual significant coverage in reliable, third-party sources:
 * Reuters: Stephen Baldwin injured in bull-riding fall
 * Celebrity Bull Riding Challenge (unofficial site)
 * THE CANADIAN PRESS: Ismail named announcer for PBR bull riding
 * MMAMania.com: Josh Haynes: Former UFC fighter to appear on CMTs 'Celebrity Bull Riding Challenge'
 * TV.com
 * Reality TV World
 * Video Surf
 * Common Sense Media
 * TV Guide
 * Designed and Animated by Adam Gault and Carlo Vega
 * Reality TV Magazine
 * LoveToKnow.com
 * CBC.com
 * Helium: Bull riding: The fastest growing professional sport
 * Deadspin: Ride, Raghib Ride, Upon That Mystery Bull

Be honest now, you didn't even look did you? Inniverse (talk) 03:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Several of those are not reliable sources, others are simply press releases and minor mentions noting the cast or mentioning it in passing, as already noted. I did look, thanks for the usual "good" faith. Obviously having created the article, I had a more vested interest in keeping it and I found and still see no actual significant coverage of the show itself. -- AnmaFinotera  (talk · contribs) 05:37, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.