Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tygra (ThunderCats)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect with no prejudice to merging. While the keep !votes do have merit they do not address the expressed concerns about lack of independent sourcing of real world impact. Thryduulf (talk) 15:20, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Tygra (ThunderCats)

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This does not establish notability independent of ThunderCats through the inclusion of real world information from reliable, third party sources. Most of the information is made up of plot details better suited to Wikia. There is no current assertion for future improvement of the article, so extended coverage is unnecessary. TTN (talk) 15:24, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
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 * Redirect to List of ThunderCats characters. Though that list in itself may be of potentially questionable notability, for now this could be a search term and would be helpful to direct readers to the list.   Red Phoenix  build the future...remember the past... 16:43, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Important character in all the ThunderCats adaptations. There are evolutions of the character in function of the adaptation. The article can be improved. Look at Google Books, reviews, interviews ... For information, TTN performed a redirect due to "Redirect to the character list. This has nothing but plot information to support it." without merging the sources in the destination article. I revert and add a template All plot to let at some future contributors the time to improve the article. Four hours later, the article is being considered for deletion. Obviously, letting time to improve the article is not working with TTN's agenda. --Crazy runner (talk) 20:32, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep The List of ThunderCats characters is already too long. The Tygra material there should instead be removed and inserted here if not here already.  VMS Mosaic (talk) 04:13, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 00:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Keep - We could use with clearer notability criteria for fictional characters (despite being labored over extensively), but taking into consideration the GNG and what precedent seems to be set, I'd say this passes. Tygra is a central character in two versions of an extremely popular tv/toy brand. ...And just to tag one more reference from a different type of site: What Is Good Design - a thesis about the "mentor archetype" -- and Tygra is one of the examples. Not an extraordinarily good source -- just showing diversity in types of sources. --&mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  |  04:11, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 03:08, 22 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to List of ThunderCats characters. I don't see compelling sources that show that the fictional character meets the WP:GNG as a stand-alone subject, therefore he does not merit a stand-alone article. The analysis part of the article represents primary sources, as they are taken from the point of view of the creators of the character. I barely see WP:Real world for this fictional character beyond listing toys of the character. I don't think that any of the sources used within the article meet the criteria of independent of the subject sources since all of them are focused on Thundercats as a whole, not about Tygra in particular with the exception of toys, where what's in discussion are the toys, not the character. There is nothing close to reception, analysis or critique of the character in the real world as a stand-alone subject, so I think there is no basis to keep the character separately from a list of characters. Jfgslo (talk) 18:21, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge to List of ThunderCats characters. No evidence of sufficient out-of-universe notability. --Randykitty (talk) 17:04, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Merge to the character list. The "keep" arguments above do not make a good case for independent notability as seen in reliable sources covering this character specifically and in some detail.  Sandstein   10:03, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
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