Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tyler Hayes Weinman


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Delete. لenna vecia  16:10, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Tyler Hayes Weinman

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Contested prod. Article is about a person who is notable for one event only and as such, Wikipedia is not a news service. TN X Man 17:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

There are many articles on Wikipedia that qualify as "one event" (Air France flight 447) and also qualify as only news. This article is important because catching a serial killer of animals is rare and gaining national news attention about it is rarer still. What becomes of this case has the potential to change how such people are dealt with in the US legal system. And how is this person exempt from being written about and Rostislav Bogoslevsky is not? --Kamoore36 (talk) 17:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment There is a difference between coverage of an event and a person. Also, we cannot cover events that "[have] the potential to change" something because we are not a crystal ball. And finally, whether or not Bogoslevsky has an article has no bearing on this article. TN X Man  18:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Event was noticable enough to warrant widespread US coverage in major news sources, such as NY times, Miami Herald and CNN. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:52, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment That's my point. This is the only thing for which he is notable. TN X Man  18:09, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Response to comment, Dahmer was only notable for his crimes, granted they were more extensive....Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment But two movies and a book were made about Dahmer. That's significant independent coverage. TN X Man  18:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep He is known for 19 events, which were covered in national news starting May 20, 2009.--Wikiwitch423 (talk) 17:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 18:03, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E. This is a person who is in the news for a single insignificant event and is not otherwise notable. --L. Pistachio (talk) 19:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per BLP1E. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:55, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment what about Casey Anthony, based on your raesoning this should go too.Hell in a Bucket (talk) 20:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I think the Casey Anthony saga has been a major news story of sufficient durations to meet the guidelines. The series of incidents carried out by this individual hasn't amounted to that... yet. If there turns out to be mroe to the story then maybe. ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * You may well be right about that. But that's getting into WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Check that. Casey Anthony is a redirect to the article about the murder of her daughter. That's actually a perfect demonstration of what BLP1E is about. You are failing to distinguish between a person and an event. --L. Pistachio (talk) 22:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 *  Keep or Merge if no trees are killed or wiki doesn't exceed allotted bookshelf space, then an entry which may serve reasonable research purposes may be useful to readers later. If there are enough words to generate a google hit from likely searchers, it should be worthwhile. Seems notable is sources check out. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 21:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggest you look over Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. The fact that the article doesn't hurt anything by its existence, or that it might be useful to someone, do not mean that it meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. --L. Pistachio (talk) 22:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've been through all that. I'm claiming it meets notability and is a net service alone or merged- ok, so maybe merged into something. Does it have archival value for wiki's audience? Claiming wiki is not news just means it doesn't create notability or report on things of passing fancy. What presumptions about the audience guide wiki's criteria? Are you saying encyclopedias' relevance to research is not a consideration? Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 10:34, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete A person notable only for a series of what are, after all, relatively minor crimes. They attracted popular attention, presumably because people love cats. So do I, but the story is for a newspaper, not an encyclopedia. This is exactly the sort of article that BLP is intended to prevent. DGG (talk) 21:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Why is killing cats more minor than humans? Presumably for reasons that aren't relevant to notability. Published accounts, if they check out, establish wiki notability and we should try to keep our personal opinions out of it. It was notable to someone in judgment of editors are reliable sources. I often mention my own for an aside or indicate a bias. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 21:20, 16 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTNEWS. Newspaper article at best. -SpacemanSpiff (talk) 21:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment This has become international news and he is now known as the "Miami Cat Killer". I see news articles in French, Spanish, German, Dutch, Portuguese, Russian, etc. Don't underestimate the power of cat lovers. Felines have been worshipped for thousands of years. Drawn Some (talk) 00:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete I do not care if it has become "international news" or even "interplanetary news," it still should be deleted per {WP:NOTNEWS]] and WP:BLP1E, and if Wikipedia has an article about a crime it should usually be about the crime and not the criminal, if the person was otherwise non-notable as this person was. Edison (talk) 01:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: This is not 19 events....it's WP:BLP1E. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:48, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, of course. Some people just don't get the BLP issue. Jack Merridew 14:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E. This is a BLP based on an arrest, not even a conviction. The event may be notable, not the suspect. • Gene93k (talk) 17:56, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. A person who has received news coverage for one allegation and is otherwise unknown. The allegation is of a crime which, however unpleasant, is not a major national or international event: the fact that many newspapers have chosen to cover it does not alter that. Note that WP:ONEEVENT says "If reliable sources cover the person only in the context of a particular event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, low profile, then a separate biography is unlikely to be warranted". JamesBWatson (talk) 14:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.