Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tyra Neftzger


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. , if you like, I can undelete the article and move it to your private user space, where you can continue to work on it. If you are able to find sufficient reliable sources to establish notability, it can be moved back to the main article space at a later time. Drop me a note at User_talk:RoySmith if you would like me to do this. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:20, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Tyra Neftzger

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I believe this article fails the notability for musicians. It also appears to be copied directly from one of the sources (although perhaps the source has copied this page). AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 23:28, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Jinkinson   talk to me  00:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Tennessee-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent|lambast 02:51, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. duffbeerforme (talk) 14:01, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * This page has not been updated recently. It was my understanding that the purpose of this initiative was to improve articles, and not simply eliminate them. Has anyone done research to determine whether the article can be improved before making this decision? dictionaryfan (talk) 14:01, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
 * See WP:BEFORE --Bejnar (talk) 05:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete lacks any substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. Mostly his own work and related sources. Faills WP:GNG, fails WP:MUSICBIO. --Bejnar (talk) 05:11, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I am an elementary music teacher and created this page, a well as his wife's page because they wrote a book for children and created jazz curriculum to go with the book. Because it is free, this curriculum is still being used by thousands of teachers. These Wikipedia pages are useful to teachers like me when we refer others to the curriculum, as it provides background information that we can show to school administrators when submitting the curriculum for approval. Please note that other websites populate information from Wikipedia, which is why I feel these entries are necessary. All this to say that while these individuals are not commercially successful mainstream individuals, they are notable within their fields for their efforts to introduce children to jazz. I am not a great Wikipedia editor but am willing to so the work to update the pages to meet your criteria. However, if the criteria is centered on popularity then there is no amount of work I can do to fix these pages. dictionaryfan (talk) 14:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2014 (UTC)


 * dictionaryfan Here are some ideas for finding more info to fill out the references: 1) look for articles in magazines for teachers that talk about the book and curriculum - something that says "curriculum used in n schools nationwide" would be helpful 2) check music reference books for the person as a musician. Unfortunately, no searching that I did turned up anything useful (but I did fix the link to the curriculum, which appears to have changed). LaMona (talk) 15:59, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Dictionaryfan, after reading your comments above I have had another read of the article. At the moment, it sounds like his music work is his main achievement and the writing of the books is a side issue, especially in the introduction to the article. Perhaps the article should be edited to put more emphasis on his writing if that is his most valuable contribution. (These are just observations from a layman) AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 14:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.