Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tytus Bergstrom


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The result was delete. No prejudice against recreation as a redirect. Jenks24 (talk) 14:57, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Tytus Bergstrom

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vanity page. fails notability. Tone and content unsuitable, too fluffy/PR-ey. created by SPA/COI editor who also wrote an extensive article on subject's project Reality TV Movie - follow the deletion discussion for that here. Rayman60 (talk) 00:49, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor Talk! 16:38, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Sam Sailor Talk! 16:38, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Fails WP:ARTIST, fails WP:ENTERTAINER, and fails WP:BASIC. Sam Sailor Talk! 15:47, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: I did manage to salvage the article for In Search of Lovecraft, which so far appears to be the one thing he's most notable for. If all else fails, we can delete and redirect there. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  05:39, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm leery of the United States Dance Championships claim. It's backed up by a press release that just states "Tytus Bergstrom, former U.S Latin Dance Champion" and not much else about him - it's not even about the USDC. This means that it's entirely possible that what he won wasn't even through the USDC, which is possible given that there are a lot of similarly titled competitions out there - anyone who has ever participated in a beauty pageant AfD can vouch for this. I also cannot find anything while searching for his name and the name of the competition. There are plenty of primary sources from Bergstrom himself and from places that have hired him, but I can't actually find anything from USDC and I can't see his name listed on their website anywhere. This means that for all practical purposes we have to consider this claim as one that cannot show notability. Other than that, the article claims that he taught notable people, however that in and of itself doesn't always guarantee notability - the big thing about this is that you have to show where his teaching was notable by way of multiple independent RS that discuss him. The only non-primary source in the article is from the Spartan Daily, a college newspaper. The link isn't showing up properly, but a look through the Wayback Machine shows that it was a passing, trivial mention in regards to a dancing competition that occurred on campus. College newspapers are occasionally usable if they're known for being very reliable, however even then the coverage would need to be secondary and in-depth. A passing mention in an article about something that happened on campus does not accomplish this. I'm still digging for sources, so it's still possible I might find something out there, though. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:06, 30 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete, possible redirect. I can find nothing out there to show that Bergstrom is notable for his dancing career. He has one film under his belt that is notable, the Lovecraft film, but at this point in time he lacks coverage for anything else that would show notability. There are one or two brief mentions here and there in relation to something else, but never in any context that would establish notability for him as a performer or educator. It's possible that there is coverage out there that predates the Internet given that the most notable portions of his career occurred during '92 and '93, but if it exists it's fairly well buried and there's nothing recording any of this other than Bergstrom himself or his representatives. Even a search on Highbeam brings up nothing, as does a search via Drexel's library database. We could redirect to the article for the Lovecraft film, but the question here is whether or not it's really worth redirecting or not. Redirects are cheap, but I've heard the argument that it doesn't really help much unless the role is particularly well known. I figure I'll leave that up for the closing admin. Either way, the promotional nature of the article makes me believe that its history should be deleted prior to this redirect's creation. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  06:55, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment - Winning in the amateur category of that dance championship does not appear to confer notability. If every amateur participant and winner of every competition of this ilk had an article, we'd already have been overrun by the sheer volume of profiles on the project. If appearing in In Search of Lovecraft is their only other claim to fame, that to me indicates failure of notability too. It was so poorly received and so minimally distributed, that again, if every person with a significant role in every film of similar standing had an article, the whole encyclopaedia would effectively be an imdb-esque directory with a little bit of side content. Rayman60 (talk) 03:13, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG, and the promotional tone of the article begs for WP:TNT, even if there was something to save.  Onel 5969  TT me 12:33, 8 December 2015 (UTC)


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