Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/U-8047 Submarine Museum (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:08, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

U-8047 Submarine Museum
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This article is a poster child for why we have NOTNEWS. This canal longboat dummied up to look like a Nazi-era German (and, later, on one side, UK) submarine, with its owner in full German uniform, appeared on the UK canal system and naturally became a darling of the tabloids and other sensational media. The article was created here by the same (admitted, now-blocked) owner and was originally a spamfest until a few editors, including me, cut it back to at least what could be confirmed through those news sources. At the time the article was created, the boat was parked in a prominent position outside a major UK military museum at Clarence Dock, but was subsequently forced to be moved to another more distant mooring at that location and, losing its income from admissions, eventually had to be sold and scrapped (the latter according to an editor who was (again, by his own admission) the brother-in-law of the owner). The article still says that it's at Clarence Dock, but that's only because no RS can be found for the fact that it no longer exists. This so-called museum, actually a rich boy's toy publicly flogged as a museum to bring in some cash, was the kind of flash-in-the pan overnight sensation which has no lasting significance and should not be part of the encyclopedia. TransporterMan ( TALK ) 21:38, 8 January 2014 (UTC) PS: I had wholly forgotten that I had previously nominated this. The significant change since that time is, of course that this no longer exists. If it's to be kept, some comments would be appreciated about how to document its nonexistence. — TM 21:43, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:38, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:38, 9 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - local man gets expensive birthday present but fails to secure appropriate development consents and has to have it scrapped. A local story in tabloid papers while it existed but most of those related to a single event - it's creation and then (soon after) removal. Absolutely not what Wikipedia is for. There are dozens of similar "things" in my native Australia - home-made castles, doomsday bunkers, private railways, personal collections of ex-military tanks and planes. Certainly not notable enough to warrant coverage here. Stalwart 111  02:52, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
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