Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/U. T. Downs


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The result was   keep. Nakon 04:14, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

U. T. Downs

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Being the mayor of a small US town does not satisfy WP:NPOL. Prod was disputed; other than being a small town mayor/sheriff, only other claim to fame is being mentioned in a 1925 encyclopedia of Louisiana OhNo itsJamie Talk 10:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Keep. He is in the Henry E. Chambers 1925 History of Louisiana with his own biography.'' A History of Louisiana, (vol. 2), pp. 245-246, by Henry E. Chambers. Published by The American Historical Society, Inc., Chicago and New York, 1925. This alone should meet notability concerns. That is a major work of pre-1925 Louisiana history. There is no restriction listed in the Wikipedia guidelines in regard to mayors and the population of their cities. Nor are sheriffs specifically mentioned. City council members are not mentioned; there are twelve articles on city council members for Bangor, Maine, a city of 33,000, much smaller than Rapides Parish, Louisiana, of which Mr. Downs was sheriff but larger than Pineville, where he was mayor prior to being sheriff. I found two out-of-state newspapers with articles on U. T. Downs. There won't be much else on the Internet about him since he died in 1941. Billy Hathorn (talk) 12:55, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment From WP:NPOL: Politicians and judges who have held international, national or sub-national (statewide/provincewide) office, and members or former members of a national, state or provincial legislature.[11] This also applies to persons who have been elected to such offices but have not yet assumed them. I fail to see how a small town mayor or sheriff would meet that guideline. OhNo itsJamie Talk 17:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment It also says "local politicians" can be covered with significant news coverage. The Chamber history should alone meet the notability test. Bangor, Maine has twelve city council members and eight mayors. So if a mayor/sheriff does not qualify, how does a city council member in Bangor, Maine, qualify? Billy Hathorn (talk) 18:05, 23 January 2015 (UTC)A "local politician" should cover a mayor or a sheriff, or in this case, one who held both offices.Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:27, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment See Other stuff exists. OhNo itsJamie Talk 18:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 19:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 19:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 19:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)


 * If there is a two page encyclopedia article about him, and newspaper coverage, he will satisfy GNG. James500 (talk) 18:55, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Source: http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/rapides/bios/downsut.txt Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:20, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 00:44, 31 January 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, N ORTH A MERICA 1000 01:04, 7 February 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 07:53, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as per WP:BASIC, which indicates that people who meet WP:GNG may be considered notable without meeting the additional criteria (such as WP:NPOL).--Antigng (talk) 15:12, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
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