Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UDR Benevolent Fund


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. However, if someone thinks they can show notability and wants it userfied to do so, drop me a line. Fabrictramp |  talk to me  02:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

UDR Benevolent Fund

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Non-notable charity, anything useful here can be in the main UDR article. BigDunc Talk 02:01, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:22, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete: I agree with the rational, and the information is already in the main article. -- Domer48 'fenian'  18:27, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Do not delete: I would not agree to this article being deleted as it relates to a major Northern Ireland military charity in the same way as the Army Benevolent Fund relates to a major UK military charity. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 00:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Would I be right in saying the British government don't even support it, or consider it at all notable? Would you not agree that the information is in the UDR article already? Thanks, -- Domer48 'fenian'  00:19, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I have not seen evidence to show that the Government does not support it as being a NI charity, it is not required to produce public accounts etc. However, NI charity law is changing and the fund should become more visible next year.  I still don't see any reason why it should be deleted and would recommend that we leave be at the moment.  It has only been up a short time. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 21:57, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't find any source that says the British Government support it. BigDunc  Talk 22:05, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I found one that says they don't, but Gavin Lisburn may have one? -- Domer48 'fenian'  22:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I only have some more information from the 'Potter' book source which I can add when I get some more time. If there is a source to sday the Government do not support the fund, then certainly please publish it.  I do not have an issue with that.  There are probably many, many charities that are not supported by any Government. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 22:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 01:40, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete: as it is none notable. It says as much in the Lead "Little is known of the make up of the Trustees," "It is not known how the fund is financed at the present moment." The information is already in the UDR Article. -- Domer48 'fenian'  15:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Do not Delete: NI charity law is different from GB charity law. Currently, it is not regulated which means that charities do not require to publish 'public' accounts or give details about their trustees. This will change during 2009 with new NI legislation coming into being. May I suggest that we leave be until the first public report is issued and we see what comes out from that information. This would be preferable to being placed into the main UDR article whiuch is subject to a lot of continuous editing etc. Gavin Lisburn (talk) 21:06, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


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