Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UEFA Euro 2008 broadcasting rights


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.  Sandstein  18:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

UEFA Euro 2008 broadcasting rights

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We have a lot of rather inconsequential sports articles, but this is a bit much. How is a list of TV stations that are broadcasting a single football tournament even remotely encyclopedic? Delete, per WP:IINFO. Biruitorul Talk 03:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Agree with nominator - can't see how this is vaguely encyclopedic. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  08:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 13:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * The article is interesting, but I have (unfortunately) no policy from which I can present an argument, so instead I guess I'll vote to merge into Sports television broadcast contracts. ugen64 (talk) 02:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Netural but if the article is opted to delete, remove List of 2006 FIFA World Cup broadcasting rights also please. Raymond "Giggs" Ko 05:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Presumably you mean "neutral"....? ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh my goodness... Raymond "Giggs" Ko 06:23, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep companies pay massive sums of money for broadcasting rights and mainstream media covers transfers of these rights. With better references and a passage about the broadcast of this year's tournament, this article will be fine. - ElbridgeGerry t c block 14:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Not all business transactions equal an encyclopedia article. Again, fundamentally, this is trivia - a list of TV stations ephemerally associated with a single sporting event. Biruitorul Talk 16:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * A lot of things on Wikipedia are considered "trivia", largest cities, three-letter country codes, etc. Doesn't make them any less notable, and a demeaning of an article as trivial is not a proper argument for deletion. - ElbridgeGerry t c block 17:48, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep this is actually very useful for people to find out where it is being televised in their country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.62.205 (talk) 09:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:USEFUL and WP:NOTDIR. Biruitorul Talk 16:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I have added a new intro to the article which makes the article no longer just a list of broadcasters. There is significant coverage in reliable sources establishing the notability of this topic with the broadcasting rights being sold in a new way for 2008 than previously. Such coverage shows that this is not just trivia or unencyclopedic but instead a valid topic. Davewild (talk) 11:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure, ways of doing business change - nothing prevents us from making a note of the new model here. But an exhaustive list of who's broadcasting a single event isn't really justified. Biruitorul Talk 16:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no good reason why we should not have this list as part of an article on these broadcasting rights. It does not fall into any of the sections within the WP:NOTDIR policy or the WP:IINFO policy (there is now explanatory text to provide context for the reader) that you have quoted above. There is plenty of coverage in reliable sources which establish the notability of this topic - many of the individual television deals have articles written on them as well as coverage generally on the broadcasting rights as a whole. Davewild (talk) 17:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Where else are you supposed to find this sort of info in case you need it if not on wikipedia? And yeah, it might be useful for people who want to see the games at their local tv stations. Timbouctou (talk) 22:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please review WP:USEFUL and WP:NOTDIR. We're an encyclopedia, not a place for people to find out where a one-time sporting event is being broadcast. Biruitorul Talk 23:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep This is encyclopedic enough. I find it interesting to see which channels are broadcasting. Maybe I am just weird. --Tocino 02:26, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Do see WP:UNENCYC (of which the converse is presumably WP:ENCYC), WP:INTERESTING and WP:USEFUL. We aim to be a scholarly encyclopedia, not a TV guide. Biruitorul Talk 05:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep as there have been similar pages for other sporting tournaments like the World Cup. Is it safe to say that there is a precedent set for these sorts of articles yet?--ChicosBailBonds (talk) 03:40, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See WP:WAX - the existence of other pages containing similarly trivial lists does not require that we keep this one. Biruitorul Talk 05:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge and delete Merge the opening paragraphs into the main article and delete the rest, which is bascially just a list of TV channels.  Lugnuts  (talk) 08:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Merging and deleting is not allowed under the GFDL license. Davewild (talk) 09:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep: I do think that this article would be useful for someone in the future, even for a minor usage. If there will be anyone needing this article, that must be kept alive.
 * Cheers, Umi1903 (talk) 12:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:USEFUL - we are a scholarly work, not a directory for someone who may "need" a list of TV stations at some point. Biruitorul Talk 15:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: Insofar as the article deals with the economics of sports it is encyclopedic. Perhaps and somewhat, in analogy, the various global broadcasting rights of Euro 2008 are to the tournament, as an annual report is to a large company. --Mr Accountable (talk) 15:43, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Again, we're an encyclopedia, not a record of business decisions, and the relevant portion of the text (not the list, but the bit where it says a new business model was tried out) can easily be inserted here. Biruitorul Talk 15:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: Well-referenced valid topic. The subject describes an important aspect of sports. This kind of nomination should be stopped.  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 15:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please confine your arguments to the topic at hand, without the veiled threat in the last sentence. Sure it's sourced, but that doesn't imply it should be an article (see WP:EVERYTHING). And no, what television stations broadcast a single event (a rather trivial conjuncture) is not that encyclopedic or important. Indeed, I daresay it's trivial. Biruitorul Talk 19:08, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You and I may consider it trivial, but we are not the end-all-be-all of triviality. Certainly, a number of independent sources consider otherwise, (Linked: The Globe and Mail, BBC News, Ottawa Citizen, Engadget, Polskie Radio and International Herald Tribune articles about the sale of broadcast right) and I'd say their journalists are better judges of notability than you or I. - ElbridgeGerry t c block 21:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep: I have been searching for opinions on writing a section about this in the article about UEFA Euro 2008 in Norwegian wikipedia, and an interesting point, is that such information can be informative and interesting in 10-20 years. Therfore, I think it is encyclopedic. Please correct me if I'm wrong Elev77 (talk) 22:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - A list of every television station that has broadcasting rights for Euro 2008 is not encyclopaedic information. – PeeJay 07:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, as the references provided in UEFA_Euro_2008_broadcasting_rights indicate sufficient coverage of this subject in third-party reliable sources to establish a presumption of its notability per the general notability guideline. Irrespective of the merits or demerits of the list of stations carrying the event, the present article includes several paragraphs of well-referenced, clearly encyclopedic prose. John254 02:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. The prose is more relevant to the article about the ITC Code on Sports and Other Listed Events, as the suggestion of a UEFA challenge to the listed events may have ramifications for all listed events. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 20:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.