Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UFC 147 (2nd nomination)


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The result was   no consensus. Discounting the SPA votes, there still doesn't seem to be strong consensus that this event is as non-notable as the rest that are currently up for deletion. ‑Scottywong | confabulate _ 16:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

UFC 147
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This yet to happen sports event fails WP:FUTURE, a whole range of WP notability guidelines (WP:EVENT, WP:SPORTSEVENT and WP:MMAEVENT). It is currently only sourced to either to UFC's own website or specialist MMA web sources, there is no indication that the coverage that this event will get will be nothing more than the routine type all professional sports events get and as a result this fails the WP:NOTNEWSPAPER policy because it fails to demonstrate why or how it will have any enduring notability as an event. It therefore can, and is, more than adequately covered in 2012 in UFC events. It also Fails WP:IRS as it is sourced completely from MMA Fansites. Because of these issues it also has problems with CONTINUING COVERAGE, WP:RECENT,ETC Newmanoconnor (talk) 18:45, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Strong Speedy Keep. What is up with this mass AfDing of UFC Event articles? This event clearly meets WP:MMAEVENT. It's an event held by the most prominent MMA organization in the world and the main event is a fight to determine a number 1 contender for a title fight. -- NINTENDUDE 64 22:27, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The WP:SK doesn't apply, a standard keep and rationale does. However, if you read the WP:Sportsevent and WP:MMAEVENT criteria that elaborate on WP:GNG,the article as it stands is not notable, it needs more than general sports coverage and has to demonstrate lasting effect. It is also an event that has not happened, and fails WP:FUTURE. I would suggest moving it to your sandbox to build until it can be properly sourced with independent coverage that demonstrates lasting significance and notability, once the fight has happened.Newmanoconnor (talk) 22:53, 3 May 2012 (UTC)


 * strong delete Every MMA event is not notable. entire seasons of other sports/years have individual notability. This is something that happens on one night, and will be quickly replaced by the next MMA event. Nothing of permanence or significance is determined at these events. There is no significant coverage other than base statistics. Move to consolidate year/season/whatever articles. 22:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaijin42 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. TreyGeek (talk) 02:52, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete This is just one in a series of routine sports events that only gets routine sport news coverage of the type all professional sports gets. I know that fans don't like it but it is WP current policy (see WP:NOT) not to cover such events. Mt  king  (edits)  01:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Mtking does not like MMA and I think we should all do what he or she says. Portillo (talk) 07:19, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm neither !voting keep nor delete at this time. The article contains a good deal of prose discussing what has lead up to the event thus far.  It manages to do more than cover just routine fight card announcements.  However, it only cites two and a half non-MMA media sources (the half is the BleacherReport.com which I have seen elsewhere on Wikipedia may not be a reliable source).  Better sourcing from non-MMA media would lean me towards keep on this particular article.  --TreyGeek (talk) 05:44, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per User:Nintendude64 as no fact based or honest reason is likely to ever exist for deletion of this obviously notable event. Suggest topic ban of all accounts saying to delete from any and all MMA related discussions per WP:TROLL and WP:VANDAL.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.19.130 (talk) 14:09, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Keep There are articles for every UFC event going back to UFC 1. I have no idea why this article is nominated for deletion; someone obviously has a vendetta against the UFC. Courier00 (talk) 16:14, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Strong Keep Obviously Trey hasn't competed much if at all in fact in real life. Every UFC is a huge sporting event, which is why they now have a deal with fox. J Savage 666 (talk) 06:38, 7 May 2012 (UTC) JSavage666 (talk) 2:38, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
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