Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UFC 20


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Monty  845  16:28, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

UFC 20

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This event fails WP:NOT, WP:EVENT, WP:SPORTSEVENT, and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER as there is no indication that the event has any enduring notability and lasting significance. Portillo (talk) 09:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Per WP:SPORTSEVENT, this event determined the champion of a top league so it satisfies the notability guideline. BearMan998 (talk) 21:41, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Obvious WP:POINTy nomination. This article should be kept like the other 30 articles that were kept due to Portillo's pointy nominations. Gamezero  05  03:49, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. TreyGeek (talk) 15:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Note to closer- This AfD was not listed in the deletion log, I have added it now. Monty  845  05:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 01:52, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Keep This is a notable top event in it's sport, just because you don't watch or like this particular sport doesn't mean it should be deleted, this is like me AFDing the superbowl because I don't like American Football, ridiculous nom Seasider91 (talk) 15:04, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:00, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep The criteria for notability requires (1) significant coverage (2) that is reliable from (3) secondary, (4) independent sources. All UFC events receive regular and substantial coverage from dozens of news outlets, thus satisfying these conditions. Therefore, every UFC event is notable. This is evidenced by the large number of visitors, who are overwhelmingly rejecting the omnibus format and are feeling alienated by privileged Wikipedians who are not responding adequately to the majority's objections. An argument I keep reading is that other sports leagues do not have individual pages for each game, but this is an illogical comparison since a single UFC is a collection of over a dozen games. Note that the NBA, NHL, NFL, and MLB have individual pages for each season for every team in their leagues, because that is the format most useful for fans. In the context of MMA, fans want to know about the event: bonuses, gate attendance, injuries/developments leading up to the event, who is on the promotional flyer, date/venue, walk out music, decision scores, etc. (opining that this information is trivial is contradicted by the media coverage of these statistics and the scores of fans objecting to the new format). The new format does not provide this. Regardless, even high-profile individual games in other sports leagues have their own pages. See NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL. Because every UFC event has substantial title implications and history-making fights, they should all be presumed to be notable. At a minimum, every UFC event featuring a championship bout should have its own page. Trevori —Preceding undated comment added 01:16, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Determined the UFC heavyweight championship, so it passes WP:SPORTSEVENT. http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dd-ufctewnty042209 shows enduring significance 10 years after the fact.CaSJer (talk) 16:57, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
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