Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UFC 83


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. It can be recreated when there is actually some credible information about the event.  BLACK KITE  14:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

UFC 83

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Clear case of crystalballing. Although the page (currently) lists a date certain and location certain, the source cited shows no date is confirmed, no venue is confirmed, no city is confirmed, and doesn't even mention UFC 83. Everything is purely speculative at this juncture. Voluminous precedent here Gromlakh (talk) 01:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC) UPDATE: To make matters better, MMA Weekly's rumors section is now claiming that the March 8 event in London might actually be UFC 83 (see here), making all of the stuff currently on the UFC 83 page actually UFC 84. Of course, even that would still be pure speculation, because nobody in the know is actually confirming any event names. Yet more proof that there is no verifiable information about UFC 83, even though some fights can be verified for the date. Please delete this article. Gromlakh (talk) 01:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Would you be willing bundle in the newly-created UFC 84 with this? Dreaded Walrus t c 03:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it appears that you were nominating that for deletion separately while I was making this comment. Dreaded Walrus t c 03:34, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. Since this AfD was filed, the venue for the event has moved half-way around the world, "supported" by a ref that doesn't contain any mention of UFC 83. Dreaded Walrus t c 03:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I have reverted it back to the old page for several reasons: 1)The source just says Bisping will be fighting and makes no mention of it being UFC 83 or that it will even be a UFC event. 2)It's unlikely that they would hold it only one week after UFC 82. 3)The sources for the previous version say that UFC 83 will be in April.  TJ   Spyke   03:42, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Neutral I don't know how it works for UFC events. However, there is confirmation of the date, location (city confirmed, arena is tentative but set for now), and a match is confirmed.  TJ   Spyke   03:42, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, the second source is a non-reliable blog. No reliable source has actually confirmed that the GSP/Serra fight is at UFC 83. The issue with the original poster changing everything around to March 8 (citing the Bisping/McCarthy article) is a huge part of the problem here. The UFC has a ton of events scheduled between now and April, and they haven't decided what's going to be what. Nobody knows if that event on April 19 is going to be UFC 83 because they've had serious trouble securing the Bell Centre. If that falls through, the date will move, the venue will move, and nobody knows when UFC 83 will be taking place. Gromlakh (talk) 03:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - per WP:CRYSTAL. Suggest salting until there is demonstrably reliable sourcing as these UFC # articles get recreated with distressing regularity with no sourcing. Otto4711 (talk) 14:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Referenced article concerning a notable event that almost assuredly will happen.  Best, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 04:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Sourced, fighter says he's fighting means its not crystal balling. You have a good source the event will take place, may need a crop of unsourced bits. Also you may wish to input to this couple of suggestions to avoiding doing these all the time. --Nate1481(t/c) 11:23, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * All of that "sourced" info is on UFC 84. None of it pertained to UFC 83. Gromlakh (talk) 12:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.