Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UFC Japan: Ultimate Japan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. T. Canens (talk) 17:01, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

UFC Japan: Ultimate Japan

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This event fails WP:NOT, WP:EVENT, WP:SPORTSEVENT, and WP:NOTNEWSPAPER as there is no indication that the event has any enduring notability and lasting significance. Portillo (talk) 09:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. TreyGeek (talk) 15:18, 19 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Note to closer- This AfD was not listed in the deletion log, I have added it now. Monty  845  05:38, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BusterD (talk) 01:55, 9 July 2012 (UTC)




 * Delete - No sourcing to assert notability. /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 03:23, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep This is the first event to have walk on music and contained a title bout on the card, please stop AFDing UFC events, you are in violation on WP:POINT and will in due course be banned from wikipedia. Seasider91 (talk) 15:14, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that either of those facts (first music, first title bout on the card) would bring this article to the level of notability required, even if they were they must be sourced by independent, reliable sources. Also, please make sure to assume good faith and avoid ascribing motives to other editors; the irony of your WP:POINT accusation and ban threat is immense.  //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 14:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep - major event per WP:SPORTSEVENT. It's a bit of pain, sure, but easy on the "ban" talk, fellas.  Zujua (talk) 07:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep No persuasive rationale to delete found in this AFD except wikilinks to policies --causa sui (talk) 21:16, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
 * So you are saying that the wikilinks to policies are persuasive? Then why did you !vote "Keep"?  Have you been able to find a reliable secondary reference?  You may have a point that the nominator overstepped by not providing more research and analysis, but how is that a reason to !vote Keep?  Unscintillating (talk) 20:20, 22 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete Article is totally unsourced, so it fails WP:V and there is nothing to consider for merging.  As per WP:BURDEN, all of the body of this article needs to be removed.  Claims that WP:SPORTSEVENT applies to keep this article don't seem to carry any weight, except to the extent that "I like it" applies under WP:IAR, but let me amplify.  WP:SPORTSEVENT states, Note that all of the examples listed are team sports.  The counter-argument being passed around is that all UFC sports events deserve the status of the Stanley Cup Finals or the SuperBowl.  Why should every event of one small company (Zuffa or SEG), get more coverage on Wikipedia than major league baseball?  The answer that I sense is that these companies are "promoters", and that what is on Wikipedia is a function of WP:NOT WP:PROMOTION and WP:N "promotional activity".  One can also tell by the almost non-existant media coverage that the world at large does not consider this Japan event to have the status of the Stanley Cup Finals or the Superbowl.  The nominator correctly notes that the topic fails WP:EVENT, there is at most routine coverage of this event.  I've clicked on dozens of links at Google without finding any actual newspaper articles about the event.  WP:EVENT states, "Notable events usually have significant impact over a wide region, domain, or widespread societal group." and "Significant national or international coverage is usually expected for an event to be notable."  Balloon boy incident is sometimes mentioned as a WP:EVENT benchmark, and the coverage given to balloon boy is massively greater, in world-wide coverage and the amount of time over which the event was regularly reported.  I recommend that the redirect also be deleted as this is not a likely search term.  Finally, our WP:NOT policy states, "routine news reporting on things like...sports...is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia."  Unscintillating (talk) 20:20, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
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