Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UFL Premiere Season


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. CRYSTAL is a strong argument.  MBisanz  talk 05:56, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

UFL Premiere Season

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WP:CRYSTAL. It is also unclear if this will be notable enough to warrant individual pages for any season (if one is even played). Since there is no information that is not already in the article United Football League (2008), there is nothing to merge. Hippopotamus (talk) 03:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Crystal only applies if the season is only rumors. With the league securing a TV deal and hiring head coaches, it's apparent that preparations are underway.  If, in the future, it is shown that the season never comes to fruition, it can be merged into the main UFL article.  --    Me   Holla! 11:39, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Nothing here that can't be mentioned in the main article. This seems to be the equivalent of camping out at the ticket window in order to be first in line when the sales begin.  When a schedule is released for the 2009 UFL season, there will still be room on Wikipedia for that information. Mandsford (talk) 19:16, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The UFL is going to start up. Face it.  The season isn't a rumor, CRYSTAL doesn't apply.  This article has merit. Standleylake40 (talk) 00:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm still trying to face the All American Football League. Maybe someone can reserve space for an article about the Official UFL football, since I have it on good authority that the league plans to use a football when they play their first games. Mandsford (talk) 01:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment. It isn't relevant whether the the prospect of a season occurring is a rumor or not, there isn't any confirmed information to put in the article.  The article hardly has merit when all it basically has is the dates of the start and end of the season, without any third party confirmation.  Why not wait until there is some meaningful information before creating all these UFL stubs. A good start would surely be improving the United Football League (2008) page. Hippopotamus (talk) 03:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep If the NFL can have articles for specific seasons why can't the UFL? They're both professional football leagues. Just because the UFL is a startup league doesn't mean that it shouldn't have separate articles for seasons and such. It would be sort of...discrimination to not let the UFL have separate pages for seasons. Mazaradi F (talk) 03:04, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment.  The NFL is somewhat more notable and has been playing for over 80 years.  With regards "discrimination", see WP:NOT, amongst other pages. Hippopotamus (talk) 03:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, silly to compare the NFL with the UFL. Secret account 14:33, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete agree with Mandsford, unneeded fork for a league that just started, also note the keeps has extremely faulty reasoning, many of possible sources out there are rumors being made into news stories, which isn't a reliable source. Secret account 14:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment If this page is deleted someone will eventually make a new one anyway closer to the season so why delete this one when it's already here. You're just delaying the inevitable. You don't think that the inaugural season of a professional football league deserves it's own article? I just think it's silly to delete it. The page will grow more and more as the season approaches and it would just be a good way for people to keep track of the league. Mazaradi F (talk) 04:32, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That's hardly a good reason to keep the article. If it's appropriate to create the article in future because the league is well-established that's fine. Now is not that time.  There seems to a rush to create a whole bunch of UFL articles, mistaking quantity for quality.  There isn't enough content from reliable third-party sources in the main article yet. Hippopotamus (talk) 06:02, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. There seems to be less on this page than on its parent page (United Football League (2009)), and I can't find anything reliable that could be added to make it worthwhile at this stage. I agree with the guy that says it makes no sense to compare with the NFL.  If it weren't for Michael Vick, I wouldn't even have heard of this league. Aubergine (talk) 20:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment A comment from someone who can't see what American Football is all about anyway: How can you have an article about a season that hasn't yet occurred? This is an encyclopaedia not a directory or a What's-On. Peridon (talk) 22:18, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.