Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UK Space Command


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  12:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

UK Space Command

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There is one source for its "establishment" and that says "next month" Moreover the MOD have this [] which seems to say it is in fact part of air command. Thus I am not sure this is anything but a click bate story that is making claims that may not in fact turn to be nearly as thrilling as the article implies. Slatersteven (talk) 16:06, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:12, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:12, 16 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep The organisation does exist, and we'll probably be hearing more about it in the future.  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  20:48, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "...is expected to pick up a new assignment in February 2020:", so no he has not yet taken over, and no it does not yet exist.Slatersteven (talk) 10:37, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * And (as I have said) this is the only source for this, that alone fails notability.Slatersteven (talk) 10:38, 17 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. Clearly notable per WP:MILUNIT. Two-star commands obviously fall within criterion #2. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:45, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yet after two days we still only have one source for this being a real thing (well will be a real thing in Feb). Why not wait until then, and its clear if this is "The UK Space command" or "Air Command, Space" or whatever name they OFFICIALLY give it.Slatersteven (talk) 14:29, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The only issue is whether it is notable enough for an article. Which it clearly is. It already has a commander; it will definitely be formed. It can be renamed when we have an official name. That's not a reason for deletion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:01, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * One source does not notability make.Slatersteven (talk) 15:48, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * We know it is being created (given its commander has been appointed). It is blatantly obvious that when created it will be notable. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * As this was an official MOD statement care to link to it so we know what it was (officially) called and what he was in fact appointed to command? As the RAF page I linked to here does not call it a space command, or even a new command, rather it implies (if that is too weak a word) it is an existing command being given some new responsibility.Slatersteven (talk) 10:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - There isn't much information here, but could easily be expanded upon. Foxnpichu (talk) 17:51, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Not yet, as literately this article is all there is. One source for one officer taking up a post in a few weeks (without even an official name for it, the name is a lock bate headline).Slatersteven (talk) 11:43, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Rename to Space Command (United Kingdom); this is *NOT* called "UK Space Command"; secondly, whack with extreme prejudice if more information does not appear within a month. If more info doesn't appear quickly, this is WP:TOOSOON. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:43, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * We do not kepp in case something happens or in case it becomes notable. We delete and then recreate when it happens.Slatersteven (talk) 12:12, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not an "in case". It's a definite on both counts. It probably will be the case that Space Command (United Kingdom) will be the correct title. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:08, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Or (as I say above) it maybe this is just an existing command with new responsibility, not a separate "space force". We are still reliant totally on a single source.Slatersteven (talk) 10:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

And it has now been a week, and not one other source is talking about this.Slatersteven (talk) 13:06, 22 January 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Those suggesting this should be kept are suggesting that there will be sources in the future to demonstrate notability. Policy does not let us presume future sources. Either there is sourcing to demonstrate notability now or there is not and this could be created if/when such notability is established. Relisting to provide time for evidence of notability of the topic at the present time.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:49, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom; definite case of WP:TOOSOON. I can only find the one reference to any kind of "space command" for the British military. Just in case "space command" wasn't the correct name, I even tried searching for the supposed commander, AVM Harvey Smyth, and the same Defense News reference is the only source I could find linking him to anything related to space. If this were a real, imminent thing, I would think that some other news outlet would have picked this up by now. If and when it actually becomes real, we can re-create the article at that time.  C Thomas3   (talk) 07:39, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Changing to Delete since nothing has came from the past week, and has some good points. Foxnpichu (talk) 16:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TOOSOON. It's all just speculation sourced from one article and even that refers to the new body as "space directorate" which might just be an administrative function. Wait until there's something solid to write about. Neiltonks (talk) 16:30, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - I would agree that at the moment this is a case of WP:TOOSOON.Dunarc (talk) 21:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)


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