Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/UTEP–UTSA football rivalry


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ~ Amory  (u • t • c) 21:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

UTEP–UTSA football rivalry

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WP:NRIVALRY says "Sports rivalries are not inherently notable" and defers to WP:GNG. GNG states "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list." Currently there are two citations which reference the "rivarly," with headlines stating "UTEP, UTSA look to build rivalry" (2017) and "Notes: UTEP, UTSA has potential for rivalry" (2016). Therefore the rivalry claim is not currently established to GNG standards ("significant coverage") via existing citations which cover the five game played to date (2013-2017). Fails GNG, might be WP:TOOSOON. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:16, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Thanks,L3X1  ◊distænt write◊  22:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Thanks,L3X1  ◊distænt write◊  22:17, 26 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete This "Rivalry does not have the press required to be an article unlike the Eagles-Giants or Red Sox-Yankees. It is WP:TOOSOON. RavenLord64 (talk) 22:19, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ultimately this is just a glorified summary of a close game. There are brief tidbits and headlines that allude to this being a possible or potential rivalry, but nothing satisfying the significant coverage requirement, i.e., of the level of the I-35 Rivalry. At the risk of sounding like WP:IDONTKNOWIT, I can't think of anyone in the UTSA community who seriously refers to this as a rivalry akin to that with Texas State, and a cursory evaluation of sources such as The Paisano don't see it as such either. -- Kinu t/c 22:35, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails GNG Thanks,L3X1 ◊distænt write◊  00:19, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete for now. The coverage (here and here) suggests that this is a budding rivalry, but with only five games played, it's not there yet. If coverage shows this had developed into a true rivalry, we should keep an open mind about re-creating the article in the future. Cbl62 (talk) 11:33, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't delete I think there is ample evidence that this is a legit college football rivalry. My question about this "notability" thing is this: If this is not considered a "notable" article, then aren't all Conference USA rivalries in the Conference USA navbox? If this article is deleted then won't the rest be? This, I believe, is an inconsistency. And all other Group of 5 rivalry games and even some Power 5 rivalry games as well would fall into that same category. I feel pretty confident that if this article were deleted now, it would just be re-written again in the future, so deleting it then having to write it all over again doesn't make sense to me. I vote to keep this page intact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CalebHughes (talk • contribs) 19:56, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence that this is a national-level rivalry that I can find. It could turn in to one... no prejudice to re-create article in the future.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:51, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Soft-Keep It will become of something due to the proximity between the schools, recruiting, and recent game results. Even both the coaches say there is something building currently, due to those reasons. The rivalry is just as little as the Battle Line Rivalry, the only difference is the media pressure to making that rivalry develop, when in reality its Arkansas with LSU and Missouri and Kansas. --Jpp858 (talk) 19:52, 2 August 2018 (UTC)