Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Udayana (king)


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The result was Keep. Michig (talk) 09:00, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Udayana (king)

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Very little sourcing and doesn't seem to pass WP:N
 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2016 November 6.  —cyberbot I   Talk to my owner :Online 05:16, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * This guy appears to be a mythological character in the Brihatkatha rather than a historically attested person - see Brihatkatha. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 11:49, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:49, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:49, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:49, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep or Merge to Vatsa. Udayana was a notable, if semi-legendary, king of Vatsa and contemporary of the historical Buddha known largely from several literary sources. One comparison of sources from 1935: (starting at page 10). Currently, the account at the Vatsa article is more comprehensive, though there is probably enough material in books to ultimately expand this to a standalone article. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 17:11, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep, with, as always, the option of merging as an editorial decision. The information provided by the editor at 24.151.10.165 leads to some more fruitful searches that disentangle this Udayana from the philosopher Udayana:
 * 86.17.222.157 (talk) 18:15, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
 * 86.17.222.157 (talk) 18:15, 6 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep or merge -- Whether historical or only legendary, he is notable. Udayana, king of Vatsa might be a better article name, if kept.  The lack of multiple sources is probably to be expected with a legendary figure.  A merge to Vatsa would also be a good solution, as I guess the sources and content for the two are much the same, Udayana being the one king of whom anything much is known.  (This is slightly revised from my original Keep vote).  Peterkingiron (talk) 10:35, 7 November 2016 (UTC)
 * KEEP as standalone piece: Not a mythological figure. He did exist in real. He was a notable ruler of Vatsa kingdom (one of 16 kingdoms of India that time). He is more notable for his love story with "Vasavadatta" (and losing his kingdom for love). In addition to ancient book mentioned in nomination; there are many more which discuss him in detail. Here is what I found on Gbooks:, , more. This kind of coverage in Times of India for a 6th century B.C. ruler in 2016 is extra-ordinary.
 * There are however one or two more rulers of ancient India that I know of shares this name, so it can be moved to suggested title above. Anup   [Talk]  15:28, 7 November 2016 (UTC)


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