Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ulmus americana 'JFS-Prince II' = Colonial Spirit


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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 00:35, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

Ulmus americana 'JFS-Prince II' = Colonial Spirit

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Non notable new cultivar. The prod was removed with reason " notability lies in the cultivar's allegedly proven resistance to Dutch elm disease, rare within the species" which shows a misunderstanding of what WP:NOTABILITY means on Wikipedia. Being rare, unusual, better, ... don't matter here, what matters is if the subject has gotten significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. What I can find are some pictures of a very young tree in an arboretum, listings in some cultivar databases, some links from the creators, and some questions on fora. But this very recent tree has n't been the subject of any news articles, books, independant journal articles, ... so for us it isn't (yet) notable. Fram (talk) 13:23, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organisms-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:50, 10 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Jesus. I don't even have the time. Just...delete. Timothy Joseph Wood  16:29, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Alright. This appears to be a single breed of tree available from two non-notable nurseries whose sources are...basically the nursery it came from. "Ulmus americana" is entirely too generic to be useful, as is "Colonial Spirit", and JFS-Prince II doesn't seem to lead to anything of more value than this passing mention. If this is the kind sourcing we have for the apparently huge amount of similar article then we may have a problem. Timothy Joseph Wood  16:39, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:43, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:43, 15 March 2017 (UTC)


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